Bleach Chapter 462 Discussion

Poor Inoue, I don't like to see her like that.

LET'S TALK ABOUT ISSHIN...

and how only got one panel...  Oh well, at least he was in character.  "Hey, I think you are getting the better deal out of the two of us."  We all know what Isshin wants lol.



As for the rest of the chapter, stuff happened, so I really can't complain at all, I have lowered my expectations to Bleach's level, so I hopefully will not be disappointed anymore.  But at the pacing of this manga, it's going to be at least seventy more episodes of filler before the anime can pick up on the manga.  But that's ok, the current filler arc at least had some thought put into it, and an arc without Ichigo might be interesting.

Fai said:
Arashi89 said:
sharon1 said:
how long this shitty manga will continue?



Considering that Bleach is a regular bottom 5 dweller since June, and the only time it managed to get out of there it was because the editors didn't care about the ranking position, I'm sure it's going to end pretty soon.



You are free to ream on about it, but with Naruto (tahnkfully FINALLY) going to end, Jump is not going to loose another mainstream access point. If anything expect them to advertise Bleach more and pump out more games and more products.



Ream? Is that English? Did you mean "dream", instead? Oh well, tahnkfully FINALLY Shueisha has a lot of titles in WSJ that will take the place of Naruto and Bleach, so they have all the reason to loosen up at the thought of losing those series.



However, this situation doesn't look pretty for Kubo. Bleach might not get cancelled now, but it's a possibility that will get real in the near future if he doesn't get back on his feet. That's why he made that announcement about the twist he's going to pull, he's trying to gain back his readers.



Fai said:
andryuu said:
Iunno why but i get the deja-vu filler feeling from these last few chapters.



In the previous chapter Ichigo completely overpowered Ginjo only to see Kugo now saying something like "meeeh i've got more than enough power; imma share some with you guys" SRSLY? You just got your ass whooped and now you're trying to get WEAKER ?



Genre: Shonen.



That explains on why you should NOT be surprised :)



So it's okay to make really dumb decisions that could spell your defeat, because you are in a shonen manga?



I know that this is Bleach, but still...

I could just imagine, when this arc is done; the looks on Chad's and Orihime's faces when they realize how big of shits they were to ichigo

kind of like this one

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleach/v45/c462/7.html

good old bleach orohime crying and chad get 1 hit ko^^

. . . . Kubo does not get tired from shitting it seems, another shitty chapter (and before you start acting all butt hurt, I "read" this because I was stupid enough to start it, and now I just want to see the EPIC FAIL this will be, that's what gives me such tremendous endurance to this piece of shit). I truly hope Kubo disappoints me and returns bleach to pre-aizen awesomeness.

Fai said:
Arashi89 said:
wakka9ca said:


Bleach is what it is. Nothing more, nothing less. The reason people still reads it is because they want to find out what happens next. People can hate it as much as they can, but they will still read it for the sake of finding out what happens. The irony.



Wanna know what's the real irony in all of this? I read it for free. I'm never going to spend a cent on this failure.



Fai said:
Arashi89 said:


So it's okay to make really dumb decisions that could spell your defeat, because you are in a shonen manga?



Yes. Shonen manga Genre target audience is young Most of people reading(actually reading) Bleach haven't even read its predecessors.



There are certain tropes that exist in every damn shonen manga ever. In a sense its educational material.



Excepting something uber brilliant from shonen genre is like expecting plot from Haruhi or depth from Michael Bay. Its a genre where you sit back and look at cool explosions and character power ups. Noting occasional reference or two.



There are few shonen genre manga that are more than the genre itself, but most of cases are genre misplacement(Claymore), a very genius author(D.grayman, trc) or just plain quality presentation of same cliches in awesome ways(FMA)



You completely missed my point. Any kind of work, IMO, is fine even if it isn't a masterpiece. What I want is a decent plot, without incosistencies, plot holes, and easy resolutions through deus ex machinas, rounded characters and an art style that doesn't look horrible. And I expect all of this to be in a shonen manga, because that's how it should be, and there are a ton a works that fall under this description.



And you are over-generalizing a VERY wide market.  What you are doing equals going to Britney Spears concert and complaining it did not have enough guitar solos :)



And wow, someone is proud of being a pirate, well, the world's culture is certainly going down fast then :)



1) Again, missing my point. If I would want to hear guitar solo, I wouldn't go to a Britney Spears's concert, I would go to a rock concert. However, everything has a level of quality: almost everyone will say that FMA is way superior to some average shonen manga like, say, Naruto or Bleach. You can see that the mangaka is talented in both writing and drawing compared to the more mainstream artists.



2) Oh really?! Then how did you read this chapter of Bleach? You went to Japan and bought Shonen Jump there?



Get off your high horse: you're a pirate as much as me.

I think the formula here would be:

Fullbringers beat ichigo and the captains -> retreat to recuperate and train/ power up -> Revenge under the guise of protecting people