Bleach Chapter 460 Discussion

Hypno-girl said:
amenboy972 said:
ReaperEXE said:
Hypno-girl said:
We do not have enough information yet to assure that this new blade is Zangetsu but from the look of it it look like an 'empty zanpakuto' just like I said.He's about to use Getsuga Tensho, isn't that enough?



Of course Hypno-Girl, you don't know what I was talking about in my first reply, do you ?



Whaaaaaat ??? Mr Fay ??? you are here !!!....I thought you were hidden in a trash can !!

So What's up Einstein ???

the last chapter seems interesting, doesn't it ?

just like you expected it..."giggle"



I love your idiocy.

Isshin used Getsuga Tenshou and his sword is called Engetsu, not Zangetsu. See what I did there?.



Oh God !! Give her a new brain please !!



First, I say for the third time :

If Itchigo can use the Getsuga Tenshou, it is his true Zanpakto on a Shikai shape.

And if it is his true Zanpakto on a Shikai shape, he already knows the name of the Zanpakto.So he doesn't need invoke it because, it is  Zangetsu.



How cannot you understand this mere logic argument ?   BAAAAKA !!!



And second, In this last chapter I cannot just imagine, Itchigo with a new zanpakto and that he learns to use it. It is not logic !!!

More you forget he learnt to use his zanpakto during his hard training with Kisuke.



and third during ten years I never saw a Shinigami with many different Zanpaktos

and more Rukia say in this chapter, even if Ginjo took the fullbring of Itchigo,

it stayed a quantity of reatsu within him.

So he has the same reatsu than before and the same powers in quality but not in quantity, maybe it is for this reason that his Zanpakto has a different shape now.

   



So Happy birthday Bleach !!!

This arc has almost as many plotholes as an average fairy tail arc...

@Hypno-girl

If you assume that Urahara & others  know about "Ichigo power's core" 1 & 2 is bad assumption but if they don't know it's logical but I think that Urahara and others know about "Ichigo power's core". It's Urahara, Hogyoku creator. How could he doesn't know? He created this sword. etc.

Well, leave our assumption for next week because we, probably, are seeing another things in this manga.

ElMorty said:
Mh, I didn't dislike this as a comeback, but too many things make very little sense to me: it's too easy for Kubo to say that Ichigo's reiatsu core is too much deep inside himself for badguys to suck it away ... If they had no chance of succeeding from the very beginning what was the point of this whole arc? Wouldn't it have been better if shinigamis had just appeared and given his powers back to Ichigo? All these happenings of previous chapters seem so unneeded for now, to me ...

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I think maybe it was an excuse to make the hollow powers disappear. Fullbring is like Hollow and Ichigo had that along with shinigami powers. Now that they where sucked he can be a clear shinigami.



Well maybe they let him take the hollow powers of Ivhigo so that they can get rid of that trouble.



Han-yuu said:
Hypno-girl said:
Han-yuu said:
Why are you forgetting that Ginjou spared ichigo life before everyone came to help. Is that supposed to be help when your friend is in deep trouble and can loss his life? AND YOU KNOW HE"S IN TROUBLE. that is my point. if urahara and rest didn't know and someone ask them to help ichigo or he will loss everything and then suddenly everyone tried to help him with whatever they got. that would make more sense.



I want soul society to pay back after what ichigo did for them but suddenly pay back on crucial life and death situation happens in only shounen fight manga's, Well. this is just supernatural fiction after all.



Yes except that they purposely waited for Ichigo to have his fullbring stolen before acting. If Ginjou would have attempted a finishing strike then they would probably have acted before. Note how they came to help him when he started to beg for a fight with Ginjou when he was powerless, they acted because Ichigo wouldn't behave himself.

Well. that is just speculation unless Kubo explain in upcoming chapters.

Arashi89 said:
Yamamoto was seething with rage against Aizen right from the start of the battle of Fake Karakura;

Thats rage. not hatred. Fits with the idea of character. Yamaji has no personal reason to support Ichigo or to hate Aizen. And I am pretty sure that whatever he feels, his regard to honor the laws of his lieges and bushido code negates any of it as unimportant.



Arashi89 said:


I'm sure that Kira,

He had more unresolved stuff for Gin than Aizen. And yet again no outright real hate.  NO bloodlusted kill intent.



Arashi89 said:
  Hisagi and Komamura

You seriously are comparing the death of one's friend to being made to stab the person you hold dearest? you can't be serious.



Arashi89 said:
Shinji hated Aizen, but also every single Vizard for condemning them to exile;

But only Shinji did Aizen outsmart completely.

Aizen used other vaizards.

Aizen played around and in sense, humiliated Shinji. Not comparable.



Arashi89 said:


and Ichigo's friends, well, Ulquiorra was an espada, i.e. Aizen's lackey, and we all know what he did to Orihime.



And Orihime came unharmed completely out of all that.  Even though we do not know what ELSE did he do to her(ongoing plotpoint).



Aizen was just another enemy. Ichigo probably felt more hatred for Byakuya than Aizen back then.



Aizen only started to try to give Ichigo reason's to despise him during fkt.

Arashi89 said:


The only ones that could consider him just a plain rouge shinigami would be the marginal members of the SS, but seeing the massacre he did there I'm sure it became personal.

Erm. no. as of above. no.



Arashi89 said:


Also, what badge are you referring to? The one Ichigo utilized to summon his FB powers or another one?

Yes, that one.  Ukitake decided to give him the badge after comparing Ichigo to someone and so far NO ONE of shinigami side has shown any indication on knowing on wtf that thing is for, not to mention Ishida's quite ominous reaction to the thing.



More than likely FBs need that for something. a fullbring/soul/essence  of that thing that gave Ishida the shivers .



ukitake is more than likely involved.



ecchi_taichou said:
Just waiting for his Hollow half to awaken again, and maybe interfere with the killing of Ginjou..



Except that he merged his powers in dangai training. Hichigo is now fully in Ichigo. Hichigo is not some other being inhabiting ichigo. Hichigo is part of Ichigo's mind. It has always been there, just not separated, mostly repressed. Since then Ichigo has fully integrated those selves of him  by accepting them as part of himself.

The cameos of the captains is the only thing that made this chapter worth reading.

Arashi89 said:
I don't even know why everyone thinks that Aizen is some sort of fallen hero trying to subvert the Soul King's government.

I would say not everyone BUT very few. It won't make any sense if aizen turn into fallen hero and soul king super bad villain unless kubo really want to ruin his story more than he already did.

Zell182 said:
Uh that was retarded.



You talking about the latest chapter or those conversations in this thread ?



My guess is both. O.o