Bleach Chapter 456 Discussion

hJ said:
What the hell were  Youroichi and Soifon doing together under the table :o

Forget that! Look at Renji and Rukia oÓ

Tsukishima seems more powerful than Aizen without the Hougyoku that is

Tsukishima didn't realize how clever Ginjo was? That's kinda weird, unless Ginjo deliberately acted stupid and innocent like Aizen did in the first few arcs..



And I have to say it, I don't think that Ichigo cares as much about his "righteous hero role" as much as he cares about the friendship bonds he had with people (though losing that role might also be a small factor)... I think he's mostly afraid that he'll be forced to leave his family and friends unless he can stop Tsukishima somehow. That would be kinda frustrating seeing as he went through all the trouble to get his powers back just so he could protect those people, he went through all those risks to strengthen those bonds again... but now those bonds are cut and everybody are turned against him instead. He's almost doing the opposite of protecting them.



PS. The colored anniversary pages were the best thing in this chapter. Felt weird to see some of those characters again.

hungry_bunny said:
Tsukishima didn't realize how clever Ginjo was? That's kinda weird, unless Ginjo deliberately acted stupid and innocent like Aizen did in the first few arcs..



And I have to say it, I don't think that Ichigo cares as much about his "righteous hero role" as much as he cares about the friendship bonds he had with people (though losing that role might also be a small factor)... I think he's mostly afraid that he'll be forced to leave his family and friends unless he can stop Tsukishima somehow. That would be kinda frustrating seeing as he went through all the trouble to get his powers back just so he could protect those people, he went through all those risks to strengthen those bonds again... but now those bonds are cut and everybody are turned against him instead. He's almost doing the opposite of protecting them..

We are not even sure ourselves on just what Ginjou wants. So its not surprising that Tsukishima got the wrong impression on him too.



Actually the bonds remain - everyone still cares, does NOT want to kill him and tries to reason with him. Its the fact that everyone things of him as villain that gets him - notice how he gets horribly batshit angry everytime that is brought up and this time he went berserk upon finding out how Tsukishima did all those things Ichigo did in his life?



He cares about his friends a lot but what is also important is that display of power, of superiority of strength of BEING protector that Tsukishima took away.  Ichigo is just a scared child who could not protect his mother right now and everyone is schooling him on how wrong he is. Thats what gets to him the most.

Essentially, he could control everything with that Fullbring.

It felt very short.

Fai said:
ALSO:

So Tsukishima rewrites Time. AND WE DID NOT SEE HOW HE INJURED ISHIDA? Put two and two together: Tsuki stabs Ishida and makes it so that Ichigo did that? Imagine Ishida appearing next chapter all angry at Ichigo that he tried to kill him. I bet Ichigo would snap even more from that.

not necessarily, don't forget that ishida was the only one that that actually got INJURED when he was attacked, others only had the sword running through them without shedding a single drop of blood, my guess is that whether the guy who attacked ishida wasn't tsukishima or something fishy is still going on..



Hypno-girl said:
Actually I think it would have been more interesting if Tsukishima really was there all along but that Ginjou somehow removed this of Ichigo's memory to manipulate him.

though it's kinda impossible, i really wish that would happen... that'll be the most gigantic twist a shounen manga has ever had.

Tsukishima pisses me off. If Ichigo were his old self his head would be sticking out of his ass.