Bleach Chapter 456 Discussion

I hope tsukishima had some good plan in his sleeve to destroy all world and not just karakura town OR throw soul society into chaos in order to rescue aizen. so that's why he's recruiting new members and want ichigo on his side.



otherwise i don't see why we have all this confusion.



illustration was nice.. i also wonder what yoroichi and soifon were doing under the table.

sMug said:
The reason Ishida was cut (not like chad and Inoe) is because he is a quency and somehow Tsukihimas powers don't work on him. He'll come to the rescue (or so I think)



ALSO: This is so stupid. Ichigo could easily reason with his friends. Explain to them what is happening, ask to trust him because they all know Ichigo wouldn't act like this if he had no reason to. And to prove it all ask his friends to come talk to Urahara or somebody who was involved in the Rukia rescue and stuff because I doubt Tsukihima did anything to those guys.



Yes and no.

Tsukishima inserted himself in the past in his friend's memories. He is the one that saved Rukia, he is the one that defeated Aizen, not Ichigo.

Ichigo is not the powerfull figure he was to them, he's just one of their companion and this means that they trust Tsukishima more than they trust Ichigo because he 'was' to them what we know Ichigo was.



That is what get Ichigo angry the most imo. He care about being a protector of justice but before that he care much more about the trust of his friend than anything else, seeing someone stepping on this trust and merely playing with it is something Ichigo cannot accept.

All his ennemy so far never went that far against him, they not always played it straight but they never menaced the bond between Ichigo and his friends.





Let's take this exemple instead:

What if after Aizen was defeated Urahara would have been telling them that Ichigo's never existed and would try to kill Ichigo, would they have accepted it and just sided with Urahara? No they would have wanted to protect Ichigo and would have fighted Urahara.

That's exactly what is happening now but Tsukishima is in Ichigo's place and Ichigo is in Urahara's place.

The whole soul society would come and deny Tsukishima's existence but everyone that got affected by Tsukishima's fullbring would still deeply beleive in him and would protect him to the extent of their lives. Denying Tsukishima now is denying their past experience, it's denying themselve.

Of course we know that Tsukishima is a liar but that's because we are a viewer of this story.



Actually I think it would have been more interesting if Tsukishima really was there all along but that Ginjou somehow removed this of Ichigo's memory to manipulate him.

CyborgNinja said:
Karhu said:
Dude, where on earth did you read this ? I mean 455 just came out about an hour or two ago.

It's obvious that the guy who started the thread made a mistake. This week 's chapter was 455. Somebody should delete this thread.



Heheheh my bad, plz laugh it up, and delete this thread

Bleach is shit. It takes me 20 seconds to read every week because there is hardly any dialogue, and thus it feels like the chapters go nowhere. This whole arc sucks, Kubo failed with this whole full bring shit. It's an idiotic origin for chad and orhime's powers, as well as the scapegoat for the return of ichigo's powers. Honestly if Ichigo had a brain he would stop being hostile and ignore tscuchima, that way his friends would cease being hostile and would help him if tsuchima attacked him. Maybe even kill tsuchima when they are alone. Not to mention how out of character Ichigo is, he's never killed anyone or wanted to.  Anyways the whole premise of this arc is bullshit Naruto is 1000x better which is sad.  Fai is a troll who will defend bleach no matter what Kubo does LMFAO.

Tsukishima pisses me off I hate him soo much.

Another bland, insipid chapter. I don't even recognise Ichigo anymore. WHO IS HE? He's even more annoying than Sasuke times ten! Even Sasuke's behaviour due to his psychological trauma is more cogent and convincing than this pathetic bit of nonsense.



Fai said:
This pretty much proves what I have been talking last chapter.



You're hilarious. If this chapter demonstrated that Ichigo was a walking elephant, you would say "Oh it proved what I said last chapter." And if it turned out that Isshin and Urahara burst into the scene wearing Batman and Robin's outfits to complement Ichigo's cosplay, you would affirm, "HAH! I KNEW IT LAST CHAPTER."



Why isn't there an ignore button on this forum which I can use on some people, honestly?!

A failure as a chapter. I have the strangest feeling that this same shit is gonna be going on for the rest of this arc. Is this even bleach anymore? No hollow, no shinigami, no zanpakuto, and no socks with sandals.... Instead, it's just a bunch of new characters created out of writer's block, in order to milk Bleach for all its worth, running around in one massive repetition of non-canon problematic scenarios. And this CLEARLY is not Ichigo. The Ichigo I know would stop complaining about his problems and kick the crap out of the guy causing them. Now, this character is just whining about how nobody remembers him won't at least knock his friends out in order to save them from Tsukishima.



Only one more arc left, thank god.



PrometheusZero said:
Pacing is so slow! Sure, I like the big splash pages and syrupy artwork but damn, if Kubo doesnt leave plot threads hanging!!!!



Where are Isshin and Urahara? What are they even doing? Is it even relevant?

Aaaarrrggghhh!

I honestly have no idea what Kubo is even trying to infer. To my understanding, he's trying to make Ichigo question their allegiance? You've got to be kidding. Isshin is his fucking father. We all saw Urahara's past. Not only that, but they've both saved Ichigo too many times.



By the way, I'd love to know what happened to Nel.(And Grimmjow? He was alive the last I checked). How hypocritical for Ichigo to whine about his friends when he's the one who forgot about Nel. Just my two cents.

Ichigo is getting trolled so hard. Apparently, he lost all his speediness from last chapter or Tsukishima just got faster, in which case, Ichigo got trolled...again.