Hunter x Hunter Chapter 357 Discussion

MajinAkuma said:
BigBoss said:
MajinAkuma said:
BigBoss said:




That makes it even dumber, fuck nen vows my Bungee Gum can make me stronger without me having any drawbacks..... Really?

The Chimera Ants had ridiculously powerful Nen without any vows. Hisoka's Nen got stronger after dying. Or do you expect a drawback from Nen from a dead person who is now undead?



Chimera ants are completely different case tho, their whole biology is different then human ones and even with those extremely powerful nen aura they could still be killed and you know.....actually stay dead...... Pitou is probably something like 5 times if not even more stronger than Hisoka and the best she could do is after dying to make the puppet move her corpse, but here we have Hisoka doing gods work.

Because he knew what he was doing. Everyone else wasn't smart enough to do so. Killua might be able to do the same with his Nen.



Really? that doesn't make it any less of an asspull because "he knew what he was doing" if anything it gives him even more power up, than wtf is even the limit of his Bungee Gum? Should I expect in the future for him to form a spirit bomb out of his Bungee Gum because he was smart to use it that way and his will is just that strong?

I'm disappointed in this chapter because I feel like a few tweaks were all it really needed in order to be, maybe not a great chapter, but at least a decent one transitioning back to the Dark Continent stuff.  Unlike a number of comments here, I am willing to buy into the Nen after death move of Hisoka's... to a certain degree.  The idea that he could use Bungee Gum to forcibly expand and contract, thus performing CPR on himself, would be a viable tactic for revival in this situation since he died of suffocation; and it is consistent with the properties of the ability as we know it.  The problem for me lies less with the tactic itself and more with the timing of everything.  This technique would be a lot more reasonable in my mind if it happened moments or minutes after death.  But the fact that it has been much longer (since rescue crews have arrived, the results are being reported on the news, and the Troupe has moved Hisoka elsewhere) just means that Hisoka should have woken up to find himself a vegetable.  Additionally, it seems weird that it would have taken this long for it to activate since it does not feel like you should be able to control the timing of Nen after death; and, in the case of Pitou previously, it took effect very shortly after dying.



All in all, this set up just reeks of contrivance.  I would have been much happier to see Hisoka die, Chrollo briefly confirm it and leave (since he was responsible for a massive explosion and the death of quite a few audience members, a hasty exit would make sense), Hisoka's Nen could then activate and revive him, Hisoka could seek of Machi separately, and then everything else could have played out as is.  Oh well.



On a positive note though, I am happy to see that the Troupe and Hisoka will be playing a role in this arc.  It will be interesting to see all of these factions fight it out.

mangastream scanlation is out btw



and holy shit Shalnark and Kortopi died without even a good fight because their nen abilities are stolen by Chrollo

Seeing Shalnark and Kortopi go down so easily... Makes a lot of sense. They've never been the Troupe's strongest fighters.



Since Hisoka was part of the Troupe for a short period of time, he obviously knows more about them than Kurapika does.



I will admit, him surviving suffocation and fixing his body like that... Yeah, I don't want to see that again. That was indeed bullshit.

I'm really disappointed that the Phantom troupe will end up food for Zombie Hisoka

Great writing Togashi.

While "plot armor" criticism isn't unwarranted you do have to consider that Hisoka is disfigured, he basically uses his ability as prosthetics.

It might have been an asspull but Hisoka is a fun character keep around for a while longer.

BigBoss said:




That makes it even dumber, fuck nen vows my Bungee Gum can make me stronger without me having any drawbacks..... Really?

The Chimera Ants had ridiculously powerful Nen without any vows. Hisoka's Nen got stronger after dying. Or do you expect a drawback from Nen from a dead person who is now undead?

ThanosKotC said:
I'm excited for Phinks and Feitans reaction, after what Hisoka did to Shalnark.

They won't know  it before they're dead. I don't think Shalnark messaged Chrollo before jumping on Hisoka and even if they do Hisoka is a special snowflake that has access to post mortem Nen and they don't apparently.

Chrollo better get to writing them prophecies.