Hunter x Hunter Chapter 357 Discussion

  • #18
Drake1000 said:
ThanosKotC said:
I'm excited for Phinks and Feitans reaction, after what Hisoka did to Shalnark.

They won't know  it before they're dead. I don't think Shalnark messaged Chrollo before jumping on Hisoka and even if they do Hisoka is a special snowflake that has access to post mortem Nen and they don't apparently.

Chrollo better get to writing them prophecies.



Uhh, Machi?? I'm pretty sure she can contact Chrollo after she breaks out of Bungee Gum prison.
 
  • #19
Paramvir said:
Bungee gum gets stronger after death to the point where his dead body can move in the same way as a puppet and revive himself without him pre-setting it. Pretty dumb but what's worse is that this sets the precedent for other characters doing the same thing for example Killua's nen could become stronger and shock himself back to life (ignoring logic because Hisoka's case showed it doesn't apply). Pretty bad way to kill off any suspense of main characters having yet another way to come back to life/heal unrecoverable wounds as if we didn't have enough already.



I read all the way through to see why so many people were obsessed with this manga but it just keeps bringing up plot holes and very heavy handed deus ex machina to save characters.I see yu yu in your favorites. It also has deus ex machina and plot holes.
 
  • #20
Isterio said:
I wanna be civil about this, I´ve started reading HxH recently I´m not caught up, but I read the chapters alongside the other Jump releases on Thursday.



No offense to the dedicated fans, but how does this differ to the "bullshit" every popular Battle Shounen pullls?I just don´t know how HxH fans  want to defend it as a Seinen with no plot armor after this and the Gon incident.





Hi can you tell me what the plot armor means? ?and what happened with Gon incident? ?
 
  • #21
dark-chaos said:
BigBoss said:
dark-chaos said:
BigBoss said:
DarkAngel035 said:
I have this feeling that Hisoka will not stay alive for so long.

I have the exact opposite feeling that after all of this there is no way we will see him dead.



he already dead lol



Don't think we read the same chapter it seems.



hisoka heart work because of his nen, so he already dead , if his nen stop then his heart will stop, so logically he have body without Soul , it's only his nen desire + his brain program works automatic  



that how i see things for know because hisoka character has changed a bit



But we don't really know that unless you know how to read korean.



@DarkAngel035



I still dont' get his rationale I guess, to quote someone from reddit

"This is getting pathetic. Chrollo never wanted to harm him, Hisoka was the one chasing him around. He wanted his fight, he got it, he fucking lost. And now what ? He wants to render Chrollo powerless to make sure he wins ? What a coward, mister "i like to fight strong people... except when they're actually strong because I suck".

He's gonna slash the whole troupe, I hope Chrollo gets vengeance. Because Chrollo had no reason to fight Hisoka before, but now he sure as hell does"

Hope this will all make more sense after the translation is out, this really seems like some weird fanfic still to me.
 
  • #22
So many Jojo references in this chapter,

the whole pumping your heart after dead was like the end of part 3 and Hisoka's healing was the same as part 5.

I would have liked it more if one of the two fighters died, but I guess that for now they have too much plot armor.



Chrollo will immediatly find out about Hisoka, because the abilities of his two teammates will disappear from his book.
 
  • #23
@kramXD the only idiot here is you , first of all why are using caps lock.

let me guess







secondly don't use words that make no sense , what's hatsu , do u think everyone here is from jap.





and nope we are not gonna drop it.
 
  • #24
Never thought Togashi would pull such a big ass pull like this...

Idk what to say to this shit.



Just because that pink clown is loved by some fans we get this... Oh and not to forget that 2 members of PT died off panel. For fuck sake?
 
  • #25
Isterio said:
I wanna be civil about this, I´ve started reading HxH recently I´m not caught up, but I read the chapters alongside the other Jump releases on Thursday.



No offense to the dedicated fans, but how does this differ to the "bullshit" every popular Battle Shounen pullls?I just don´t know how HxH fans  want to defend it as a Seinen with no plot armor after this and the Gon incident.







I'll try, hahah. No worries, you can critic as much as you want with anything, HxH included. I also hope no one gets offended by it.



First off, HxH is not a Seinen. It's a Shonen manga that aims to attract the younger audiences, especially the younger male ones.



About the bullshit you're implying, the Gon incident where Alluka only got introduced because it was needed that time for Gon's plot armor, and it's the biggest asspull I do believe when I heard about her saving Gon from despair. But the story managed to reason that out by confirming that Nanika came from the Dark Continent where so many unexplained things are yet to be explored.



Now about Hisoka reviving from his fight against Chrollo, it wasn't that far fetched from how HxH and nen works. It was explained that Hisoka protected his organs by his nen and nen is something that dwells within. His nen, the bungee gum, managed to revive him from obliteration and death commanding his nen that should he die or stop from breathing, let it soothe and revive his organs back. All nen is after all connected to how great your resolve and your will to survive. I still haven't read the full English scanlation of the recent chapter yet so I'm still not quite sure. But I'll give it a benefit of the doubt that somehow the chapter gives a better explanation regarding this. I know I should not jump to conclusion that when something I haven't fully understand yet should be called an asspull. Though at this moment, I do felt like it's an asspull.



I won't say that HxH has no plot armor but at least this manga presented a more reasonable excuses to cover up this plot armor usage.
 
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