Gintama Chapter 583 Discussion

"I lost my left arm throwing away my family, but i lost my right arm protecting my family"



right in the feels

GORILLA WHY CAN'T YOU GIVE ME JUST A PANEL OF KAGURA AND HER FAMILY BEING HAPPY AGAIN



tbh I didn't want gintoki to intervene, I had hoped Kagura would've been the one to fight Kamui and put some sense into him so they could fight Utsuro as a family again

So excited for full chapter. Maybe Gintoki will be able to put Kamui in place. I kind of don't get Kamui though. Killing wounded Umi would not prove strenght so what the hell.

treedude said:
Chalo08 said:
Awesome....although we need proper translation: was kamui angry that he didn't get to kill umibozu?! What made him charge at umi like that?

At first I ddnt want gintoki to get involved but now im wiping the sweat from my brow *phew* at least SOMEONE can finally get kamui in the right direction now. There's probably no need for a kamui vs kagura at thus point.

Now I already can't wait for the next chapter.



His thought process could be summed up with this:



"don't you dare die before we settle our differences and i tell you what i really think"



In essence Kamui is angry because Umibozu is supposed to be this strong everlasting figure that Kamui seeks to challenge. He wants to communicate his emotions from the past through fighting him too. So if Umibozu dies at the hands of someone else, what is Kamui supposed to do?



Also it should be noted that Yato's communicate various things through fighting.



Yeah you're right it does make more sense.

Ive been reading through the yorozuya forums and im disgusted by the kamui hate there! Am i the only one who understands him and everyone's just delusional? What makes him so different to characters like takasugi?

Heck characters like uchiha obito and uchiha sasuke have done that much worse things and they were still salvaged.

SMH its no wonder the world is at it is now, we cant sit down and analyse and try to understand anything, its all black and white! How can we hope to understand each other if we cant even understand a fictional character?!



Sorry for my out of the blue rant....it was getting to me. :/

LET HIM FINISH HIM OFF FUCK OFF GINTOKI DAMNNNNNNNNNNNNNN



I'm confused about that body double switching Utsuro did wtf, hope translation explains it.

Awesome....although we need proper translation: was kamui angry that he didn't get to kill umibozu?! What made him charge at umi like that?

At first I ddnt want gintoki to get involved but now im wiping the sweat from my brow *phew* at least SOMEONE can finally get kamui in the right direction now. There's probably no need for a kamui vs kagura at thus point.

Now I already can't wait for the next chapter.

Did utsuru just regenerate from his arm ??

Is Utsuro still that immortal? He did mention that Umibouzu depleted his Altana... and also shown as a way that even as an immortal, there is a way to defeat him, albeit hard removing the crystallized Altana inside him without trying to decapitate any of his body parts I guess.



Kinda surprised with Gintoki's appearance though... and it seems Kamui is still angry against Umibouzu even if he is at death, I expected his rage would go to Utsuro now.