Fairy Tail Chapter 499 Discussion

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  • #122
HollowIchigo58 said:
I highly doubt she's dead after all that cock teasing Hiro done with them and if she is then Fairy Tail is total fucking shit now.



Lol, so FT is shit now cause a ship didn't happen, or because a character (a fairly irrelevant one too, that is) died in a WAR ?



-_-



Never knew people read the manga just for Gruvia to happen, but all right. It's your opinon :D
 
  • #123
Geekwoglasses said:
frostmourn said:
Rex_Connor said:
frostmourn said:
Isterio said:
Given Hiro Mashima´s history with Fairy Tail it´s highly unlikely that Juvia will stay dead. Although the chapter is clearly  a reference to Musica and Reina, even down to the panel-work with the link between them, the beautiful page-spread panel with the male crying tears of sorrow to contrast the feelings of the female who willingly gave her life away for her beloved one.



I gave this chapter a 5/5, even if a resurrection happens, which I´m almost certain of, this particular chapter keeps it´s quality.



We received a lot of character development for Juvia & a little bit for Gray.

Both characters had uttered passion & love for their comrades, as well as an unwillingness to harm them. Both preferring to harm themselves for the well being of mentioned comrades. In the case of Gray even to the point of dying if necessary. Although his character development rises and falls with the reasons for the motivation to use Ice Shell against Deliora. Therefore his character development can be seen either as little or a lot. Furthermore he´s the one who received a power up which is development on it´s own.



Given all this input, it was a good chapter that´ll remain meaningful regardless of future developments.



Except Reina stayed dead :P



Hiro already pulled Musica and Reina with Gajeel's death, now it's getting stale.



You're right, Grey got -ve development now. All his development with valuing his own life went down the drain. He just spat on the sacrifice of Ul, Ultear and Silver, as well as the development that Natsu gave him. Fuck, Grey was in my top 10 FT characters, not anymore after this



Lol, he didn't spat on any sacrifice those characters made for Gray. They would've been proud of Gray if they saw what he did for Juvia. Infact they would shed tears for him.  



He attempted to suicide because he would rather move on living with his girl than without her. This is simply what couples do. Infact Gajeel would've done the same damn thing.



Your hate on for Juvia is making you blind to that. This made me like Gray even more because he brought in something new to the table. Dropping him off your fav list is just retarded tbh



I'll talk about the chapter later but this is something that I had to reply to first.



No, they sacrificed so that Grey could live on.

Grey attempting to commit suicide means that he doesn't value his life anymore, which many people sacrificed to maintain, that's disrespect to them.



So if your lover dies, you've got to suicide too? BS. You've got to live for their sake and for the sake of other people who care about you, and for your own damn sake cause you live only once. And like I said, this is pure disrespect to all the people who sacrificed their life so that Grey could live. Take you twisted philosophy outta here. And no, this has got nothing to do with Juvia, I'm talking about Grey not Juvia here.



If anything,  major part of his charcter development was realizing that his life is precious and he should NEVER let it go, and protect it at all costs.



By the way, Grey was always rejecting her thirsty obsessive ASS time and time again, this ship is forced AF.



Just want to correct one thing. He didn't commit suicide after Juvia did it, they both did it simultaneously.



Even then, it's pure -ve development for him. the MAJOR developments he had involved him realizing how precious his life is, and to never throw it away.



People sacrificed so that he could live, his development from Natsu and Silver also went down the drain
 
  • #124
Cejara said:
LOL REALLY? ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?!?! WATER MAKE BLOOD? It doesn't even make sense, sure blood has water, but what about cells, nuclei, plasma LOL OMG YOU GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't even get me started on cell death -_- and just re-using those same blood cells that are exposed to air and beyond freezing cold would cause necrosis and coagulation/clotted blood instantly. fail/5



Take this W



This is pure BS asspull
 
  • #125
Turtles_Leader said:
jreanew said:
this remind me with Musica and Reina scene from Hiro Mashima previous Manga RAVE AdventureNothing else to say. Mashima has already re used a lot of Rave things. I wouldn't be surprised if Juvia did not come back, contrary to what so many people says. People should read Rave before judging of Mashima writting. He can do a lot more than what he showed recently.



When the author say that Rave Master too dark, No way.



Oh and Musica x Reina is way more tragic than this ship.
 
  • #126
Friendly reminder that if you honestly believe Juvia is gone then you have not been reading FT lately.





This is literally only for the sake of Gray asspulling more power(because of course, this is Gray, he gets to match the protagonist because his daddy loved him enough to give him super duper magical tattoo of demons which has no effect on him for reasons I guess). Then Juvia will suddenly be okay next moment, Same as with Gajeel. Because this is FT. And this is the worst arc of FT.



It IS still hilarious that Juvia still gets to suffer again so Gray can get more free power and be in the plot. This is third time in row.



Creepy_Noire_fan said:
did Hiro just pull a Riena on us?!

No.



Rave was actually well written.This will stick as much as Aquarius, Gajeel or any other gazillion of "deaths" did.
 
  • #127


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                        Wow so...that's really it. Juvia giving up her life so Gray could live. Quite the sad and cruel death...but is it a permanent one? Has Mashima decided this death is for keeps, or is it business as usual? Last chapter I was certain they'd both make it out alive, but I'll admit this has left me with...doubt. Juvia looked stunningly beautiful on that double spread. Well either way Gray better not waste this opportunity and take down Invel!
 
  • #128
short_review said:
frostmourn said:
short_review said:
Impressive. I felt nothing ...



But it's Mashima's fault for



- Making Juvia a 0 dimension character. All she has been doing for 400 chapters is saying "Gray samaaaaa"

- Playing too much with fake death



Dude, don't.



People have been attacking me forever for talking trash about Juvia





let's make a team !



we will be INVINCIBLE !  !



Oh you don't know how much people will want 'terrible' things to happen in your life if you do that :^)
 
  • #129
frostmourn said:
Isterio said:
Mr_Perv_ said:
I like juvia but i really want someone to stay dead this time so =/



It´s confirmed that it´s not gonna happen. I have a theory that every causality that ever happened will be reset at the very end of the series through time travel to the point before Natsu´s death.



The sacrifice will be Fairy Tail losing Natsu and their memories with him through the time reset that´ll safe everyone. In a sense, this was Ultear´s goal and Hades had talked to her about it as a capability of he source of magic. With the introduction of Eclipse this became an even likelier possibility. Especially because Lucy is the key to Eclipse & Hiro foreshadowed that she´ll be one day in possession of all Celestial keys.

To do what? Well it´ll have something to do with Eclipse.



Wanna go 9/11 on this theory? Remember Carla predicting Lucy singing/crying in front of the Eclipse Gate? Well, what if Mashima didn´t mean her crying during the Dragon Invasion but her tears were farewell tears after she parted with the Dragon Slayers from the past she had to send back?



Ps: Ofc even if this happens by the power of bullshit the´ll return to the present anyway so don´t expect too much.



I have 4 predictions on how Juvia will come back:



1. Eileen extracting Juvia's blood out of Grey and making her human again

2. Larcade extracting Juvia's soul out of Grey

3. Juvia is still barely alive, Brandish come out of nowhere and shrinks the entire wound

4. Juvia never died in the first place due to Tenrou tree whick mkes the guild members immortal



I thought about the first two as well. They're the ones that are most possible if/when Irene/Larcade turn to the good side.
 
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