Fairy Tail Chapter 483 Discussion

  • #186
Isterio said:
metsujin said:




From what experience I have with other shonens (those with action obviously), and where they shine, making them better than Fairy Tail, are most likely the fights, the action. Because visually the art is nice, but it needs more substance than that. That's the main thing people complain about Fairy Tail.



You´re right but the other issue most people seem to vocalize poorly is pacing and consistency. (Oneshots, Nakama power)



Hiro Mashima made two fatal mistake when he introduced the series.

He didn´t make Natsu the strongest fighter within the protagonists cast than he proceeded to become stronger at a way too fast pace.



It´s like he took the worst parts of Naruto and One Piece and combined them.



Naruto was weaker than the cast surrounding him. He did not win a single fight against an Arc villain untill Pain. Luffy progressively got stronger withotu training over the 800 chapters and was immediately established as the strongest fighter alongside his peers, being buildup during long battles (some did really drag, but that was the minority).



To compensate Hiro constantly has to come up with deus ex machina that solve the issue in a poorly paced manner of one chapter.



Tell me if you disagree.



I'm only gonna stick to the Fairy Tail parts... anyway it's hard to disagree, even if as of recent (almost 3 years since the E.N.D. card was played, or even later since Zeref was introduced?) Natsu has been established as one of the strongest being in this world (zombie brother of the most hated mage & trained in the art of killing one of the other powerful creatures, dragons). The fact the he resorts to this power ups, it's not a good thing and frankly he brought it on himself, tho some powerups are 'legit', example when he ate Etherion, or other fights where he gets help from a friend, to emphasize one of the main themes of this manga, that of friendship, which in some cases is done well, example Phantom Lord Arc, where Lucy helps Natsu with his fight against Gajeel. But that doesn't mean he doesn't grow stronger from this fights, in terms of strenght and guess you could say battle experience as well... Basically it's all about the execution, some things are executed good some aren't, and many of the main flaws started with the GMG arc that's the point Fairy Tail was at it's lowest, but honestly given the sudden time skip a BS like second origin was inevitable, because it would've taken quite some time for them to train and make up for the lack of 7 years. Not to mention powerlevels (never liked those in the first place), are messy, frankly I didn't see a single manga that does them that properly. Anyway if Hiro executed the fights more properly, people wouldn't complain as much...? They still would.
 
  • #187
Hurray, my most favourite character despite his silly unreasonable action jellal finally has his magic show after so fucking god know how long has it been !!!



Oh hello silly 12 , another silly member of your silly music band got shot down !! That was amusing , your newly one shot silly member magic is just create fodder and in his last moment he creates a legendary fodder to save himself and fail miserably, that was fun while it last , no wait ... It just looks pathetic !



Btw , with half of the most entertaining music band got crushed miserably , this new milf/sister character appearance who maybe the female lead singer doesnt look very impressive anymore



Jellal magic show was the most interesting thing in this chapter , the whole sky was hacked , and he one shot 1 of the 12 , it was cool , .. But oh no , this shit is just a silly fodder with legendary fodder magic ... Okay jellal magic show was beautiful and cool , but thats it , lets forget the silly 12 here ....
 
  • #188
I am so sick and tired of wendy and charle with this Im never going to leave you BS and seriously this chapter shouldn't have even came out this was a mess but I digress carry on everyone.    I guess lets get to the fights in the North.... Im sure that this Eileen person is going to give Erza a power up or cry when she see Erza and helps her out smh...
 
  • #189
metsujin said:
G_Spark233 said:
metsujin said:
G_Spark233 said:
One shots were everywhere in this chapter.



Erza's mother is here?



So when you say 'one-shot' I get it in Neinheart's case (sorta will try to explain why based on what you answer) but the rest... not really? I mean to me a one shot is something like what Natsu did to the Avatar scrubs and Bluenote, right? Can we agree on that? But fighting someone than using a 'powerful' attack to finish your enemy is categorized as a one-shot? Regardless if said move/attack is BS or not.

It's not really "finishing off" your enemy if they haven't taken any damage in the first place.



But in the case of the 'historia of corpses' you can't really harm them as inflicting injuries and such, they just disappear. Neinheart is a different story, he's just another cocky villain.

They looked like they were completely uninjured but it could just be because Jellal too down Neinhart immediately as they all used their big moves at the exact same time.
 
  • #190
Chaos_Harbinger said:
Lol I am just waiting for Fai to comment :P



Honestly him and Darklight make those threads.

They are like the two sides of the same coin, one reacts overly protective and doesn´t allow any critism the other reacts overly hostile towards plotlines everyone including him were expecting ranting because his expectations came true.



If reallife was an Anime they would be a schizophrenic person that posts on two accounts.
 
  • #191
Chaos_Harbinger said:
@Isterio what do you mean?



The guy who does the theories on youtube.
 
  • #192
frostmourn said:
Very disappointing chapter. This chapter saw the most number of one shots in FT history. The only one shot I was ok with in this chapter was Jellal one shotting Neinhart, but even that was bad since all it took from Jellal was his basic spell that Natsu, Jura and Oracion Seis tanked (an upgraded version, but still his most basic nuke nonetheless)

first of all what natsu and co tanked was a pre-skip GC neinhart took current jellal's GC.... secondly this GC is from a bloodlusted jellal, he's holding back in ToH arc coz he doesn't want to damage the tower(said so), he's not gonna kil jura, and sure as hell is he not gonna kil OS.
 
  • #193
short_review said:
I don't get why people are bitching. Fairy Tail has been bad for hundreds of chapters, it's nothing new.



It's just that manga you read every monday while you wait for the other ones you really like. Sit down and relax.



/refresh link for Kingdom 472



To be honest it's not like this was the pinnacle of manga, or something 'deep', it's mostly just for fun & entertainment.
 
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