Fairy Tail Chapter 480 Discussion

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  • #58
Darklight0303 said:
AllenNoah said:
Darklight0303 said:
Kanic said:
trump54 said:
Kanic said:
Do we have an explanation as to why aren't the Dreyars using their Fairy Law?



Cost a lot of mp to use its a big spell



They had plenty of MP 400 chapters ago. When Laxus deflected Azeel's attack back in Alvarez kingdom he shot a bolt the size of a valley or something, which he couldn't do 400 chapters ago.



On the other hand they could decimate multiple frontiers and instakill any spriggans within it's range.



I'm not convinced.



You need to remember that Zeref is the source of Law. If Hades knew how to counter it then Zeref DEFINITELY knows how to do the sameDifference is that Makarov tried it right in front of Hades.  Zeref isn't near either Dreyar and shouldn't know if they're using it on groups away from him.



Granted, Makarov has no targets and I doubt Law has some kind of uber range, and you could argue that Laxus wanted to beat Badd mano y mano.



Zeref knows Fairy Tail has it. You seriously think he wouldn't tell his forces how to counter it if it's activated?

Yes.  Considering he seems to care so little that he hasn't told them anything about Fairy Tail?  Also, pray tell, what would this counter be?  Hades' counter was a Mexican stand-off, which is only possible if they have magic equal to or greater than Makarov or Laxus.  Aside from the Spriggan, who'd be too busy in their own fights, who else fits that bill?
 
  • #59
G_Spark233 said:
cloud8100 said:
Don't really get why there are complaints about them being alive tbh. It isn't gonna suddenly turn into an ultra dark manga where everyone is killed off in groups lol.

I don't expect them too but it didn't make much sense. They seemed to try to make the war more "realistic" but it came off as stupid. Zeref even mentioned earlier that Fairy Tail letting their enemies live was a weakness.



Ah, I see. So it felt forced to make an impact to some. I thought people were just doing the whole 'nobody does in FT' again. I get it now.
 
  • #60
All these people wondering why they didn't just kill them seem to not understand the concept of giving the enemy a slow death. From what it seems, with all the unharmed soldiers beneath them, Sabertooth and Blue Pegasus were wiped out by overwhelming power. Hence they aren't considered to pose enough of a threat to have to deal with them quickly, so the enemy is toying with them until they actually drop.
 
  • #61
idc about another detail,,, all i know is brandish's legs were incredibly hot... lol
 
  • #62
What happen to dimaria? Carla, Wendy and cherry are all ok now.. What the heck happened
 
  • #63
Now the people who were complaining about the war not being dark enough can kindly shove it.
 
  • #64
Fai said:
Kanic said:
When Tartaros first appeared :



The council got slaughtered -> Face was activated -> Face was destroyed-> Fiore was left defenseless in the possibility of a war with Alvarez AND Makarov decided to disband the guild.



Translation : Tartaros had an impact on the setting and by the extension the plot.



Furthermore the events that transpired concerning the mains as individuals gave room for their development : 1-Natsu and Gray lost their fathers (or kinda at least) 2-Lucy sacrificed one of her friends(kinda..) 3-Wendy finally learned to stand up for herself and activate DF 4- Erza was reminded of her childhood torture and had her confidence in  herself shaken (supposedly)



Translation: On top of their impact on the setting/world/plot , or however you wanna call it they impacted the mains as well.



This crucifixion scene is nothing of the like. It's just gratuitous violence , most probably for shock value. It doesn't change the fact that half of the Spriggans were irrelevant (at best) so far. It doesn't change the fact that this arc lacks a chain of events. It's just filler until we get to Zeref and Acno.

It went from a ridiculous arc to a ridiculous arc coupled with a gratuitous scene.



I can't understand where the glorification of this chapter or the "in your face haterzz" comments come from......



^THIS SO MUCH.



Tartaros not only had great build up and pay off, but also lasting consequences. It changed every character involved, no matter if they won or lost. It had great and well written escalation of threat, the villains set up from the start that they are the threat and there were consequences from the very start. I mean one of first things they did was completely decimating the organization that existed since the very start of the manga and in such a brutal and striking way. And even though the first introduced Gates lost, they did not lose in shameful way. Even in losing they were portrayed as a threat. Jackal got owned and Tempesta got destroyed but neither of fights felt like a true win. Even in their defeats those two characters felt like a force to be reckoned with. And then things very nicely escalated from that. The destruction of the guild? The way elfman was used for that? Even if it was thwarted, it still had impact because of HOW it was done.



This arc just feels random like filler stuff. Mashima wants the readers to think this is some huge ass war, but so far this feels less urgent than even the damn Phantom Lord attack all the way at the start of the manga.  Crucifixion scene would have worked damn well during Tartaros, but not with this. There's no reason to fear for those characters hanging on the crosses since every single character asspulled away all the consequences so far. There's no real reason to fear a spriggan approaching since most of them were shameful idiots who did not manage to accomplish anything at all.

Why should we even believe August hype? God Serena got SHITLOAD of hype since the very start of the arc, no scratch that, since the introduction of Four Gods. And he got an absolutely anticlimatic fight and death.  Why should August be different?



If Avatar and GMG arcs are great example of great build up followed by awful letdown of pay off, then Spriggan arc is an example of shitty-to-nonexistent build up followed by letdowns and asspulls.



Their is a lot of frustration in this post



And I agree with most of it



God Serena......... disappointing end but at least it made sense, acknologia destroyed the strongest wizard on the contininent in human form. I was already afraid of him and I still am. August....... I can understand because we are 6 for 6 losses for sriggan, at this point their fighting force should have dwindles due to the loss of so many generals, but they seem to be very loyal t zeref lol, and in a non cult way too.



I wish marin killed brandish, them getting a powerful ally like her angers me, sh should have let natsu die, Mabry if zeref said save natsu for me, but their was no reason for her to do this

Anyway this arc as a whole, has not raised the stakes, no urgency. I am hoping August can change that, Makarov has been uncharacteristically cowardly and I assume this will be his time......



He is vbery old and if Mavis can return to physical form then fairy tail has a master and he can be gone. The only looses ends is both Lexus  and Ivan need to be present for him to die
 
  • #65
G_Spark233 said:
The crucified scene is probably an illusions. Wouldn't make any sense if it wasn't.



It's not an illusion. >_>
 
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