Fairy Tail Chapter 471 Discussion

rapidcif said:
j0x said:
i only read the raws for now, Laxus is sweating there as if he has some illness and Laxus will battle that robot/machine magic user



Hey may i ask where you get the raws? I find I'd much rather read the original language than some translation(albeit mangastream isn't horrible).



i read the raws from here https://www.reddit.com/r/fairytail/comments/43n3u6/chapter_471_links_discussion/czjk2f7

particularly this http://www.ishuhui.com/archives/375389

OPKage said:
I didn't know that you are Mashima's editor. You should stop acting like you know everything about Mashima and his story

That guy on the other site probably cant stand on his words.



I'll throw those words right back at you. Since I don't see you even considering the possibility that you're wrong no matter how likely that is.  In other words you are a brick wall and a waste of time. The worst kind of person to have a debate with. No matter. I'll gladly see you try to weasel your way out next week and the week after that. YOu'll go on and on like this until the end of the manga. That is how ridiculous your stance is.



It's no wonder you are so desperate to find some stupid way to make serena survive. You're just as big of a useless clown as he was. Cut from the same cloth.



That person knew how to accept defeat with grace.

-ZET- said:
AllenNoah said:
-ZET- said:
People taking Dimaria tactics so serious only because of her title but can't even realise what type of manga is this...



I guess we will also expect Jacob to start cutting everyones head, injecting deadly poison and start shooting people with guns because he's an assassin, hell people might actually be waiting for that since he's looks like Jason Statham and Agent 47...



Like, I don't want to sound rude but please, just because this is a "war" doesn't mean heads will start flying around, remember that where talking about a series where the authour revived Lisanna for absolutely nothing but as a morale boost for Mira and Elfman...

And this is also a series where Erza was tortured naked in a prison cell, Grey reenacted the tollbooth scene from The Godfather, Tempesta's suicide bombing/using chemical warfare, a pregnant woman was threatened with explosion, Lucy was nearly raped by Taurus or the Vulcan, not to mention when she was almost sold into slavery/prostitution (1st chapter, by the way), child torture/slavery in the Tower of Heaven...



All I'm trying to say is it's not Black and White here.  Plus, this kinda deflates all the setup.  For God's sake Natsu was expressing fear back at the guild.

Ah, fair enough.



I just think people are overreacting or something like that, I actually think the pace should be slower than what it already is because Mashima is actually rushing things up a bit with making some of the fights off-panel.

For me this arc really needs a lot of time to develop everything, with the number of characters involved...



As for the Spriggans joking around, I guess we need to know their overall strategy  plan, but for now I'll just take as they're not as evil as we're expecting them to be, with only some of them being hard to control, just like Zeref said.

When he said hard to control he meant it as in they're hard to reign in.  He explains this to Makarov.  Given what we've seen of Ajeel and Badd (Not givin' that one up.  Seriously how can you go wrong with a name like Badd Mann, unless you're not an Isaac Hayes fan?), I can see that.  I mean Badd's reaction to Brandish getting captured was Scorched Earth on both his comrade and Fairy Heart (ie. The entire reason they invaded).

Fai said:
Its hilarious on how the times you facepalm increase with every page of FT chapter nowadays.



Welp...Spriggans being a complete fucking joke confirmed. They literally have yet to do anything important. Hey the spikey girl cut more clothes! Yay I guess? "Strongest beings on the continent" my ass.



First Brandish gets turned into fucking comedy gag, then God Serena gets anticlimatic "death". Now two more get their faces kicked in by fucking Wendy and Laxus out of all people. This is reaching GMG and Tenrou Island level of "what the fuck are you smoking, mashima?"



2/5

GMG I get, but what was wrong with Tenrou?  Besides Erza vs Azuma, I mean.

-ZET- said:
AllenNoah said:


I think the main issue with Badd and DiMaria is that there was an opportunity to fight against legitimate opponents (Kagura and Lyon, two swordswomen and two mages that build things to fight), but instead DiMaria opted for fanservice and Badd crouched on a roof like he was Spider-Man casting magic missiles of dubious effectiveness (Seriously is Beth dead or not?  If she isn't, then I lose faith in Badd as a mage, since that means he couldn't kill her with a direct hit that she showed no ability to defend against.  But if she isn't then I lose faith in Mashima as a writer, since that means he decided that the post-battle camp scene would be better served focusing on fanservice than the guild's reaction to a dead member).

Well, Mashima already wasted a lot of panels with fan-service that should be enough to lose some faith on him and the problem with the 2Spriggans fights was  simply because it had no FT members there, Mashima simply doesn't like to focus on fights that doesn't have any FT member and that's it, now just by having Wendy there the fight will be completely different even though Wendy shouldn't be that strong at all.

Fair enough.  It's kinda funny.  When I first saw the other guilds join the battle I thought they were there so that the Spriggan could win against people without FT suffering a loss, but it seems Mashima's afraid to even have them fight.



-ZET- said:
As for Wahl killing Beth, unless I see some of her members falling off or being heavily damaged like Serena is, she was definitely saved off-panel by someone, there's just no way she died and no one cared about it OR she was able to defend that, hell I don't even remember her magic, I mean Wahl just took two direct hits from Laxus and he still fighting, there's no way he can't beat someone like Beth but is able to trade punches with fucking Laxus, Mashima just won't kill the good characters even if this is a war, unless Acnologia appears, then it's a different story.

Carrots.  I am not even kidding.  Who knows maybe she trained and can use Lettuce Magic to protect herself now.

ViciLockhart said:
Chaos_Harbinger said:
WolfWoods said:
Laxus vs Wahl sounds cool..



Besides that, I don't expect much from Dimaria's fights, but I'm curious to see Neinhart..maybe he'll join this fight later?



inb4 he is gildartz :v



Some ppl say it's Gildarts other it's Simon but it will be


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Oh god why?! XD Not Nichya!

good chapter but I didnt receive my answer for whether Serena is dead or not.



Yes Darklight, you still cant bury Serena. lets wait for the next week.

Hmmm how old are Wendy and Shelia? Unfortunately I think they are still too young for THAT.