Fairy Tail Chapter 441 Discussion

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  • #42
metsujin said:


Yeah the animators made some NaLi scenes, in the old anime, but in the manga Natsu has a closer relationship with Lucy, if there's going to be a love between the two (Natsu and Lucy), I don't know.



To be honest I don´t care and I see neither a love interest in both of them from Natsu´s side. Actually I already know which pairings will certainly be canon because of several  hints in the manga.



Laxus+Mira

Jellal+Erza

Juvia+Gray

Levy+Gajeel

Elfman+Ever



If you disagree with any I gladly explain why I make those predictions and with some of them Hiro is trolling around but knowing him as a writer for over 10 years it´s quite obvious that he´s going for them. Hiro is also way more open minded than Kishi in that regard he was a delinquent during his youth and has drawn hentai for a friend. He´s not embarrased to write love stories. Ellie and Haru was decently written.

I can imagine Hiro ending the story without hooking up Natsu with any girl but make him just go on a mission with Lucy and Happy as friends.





No Mashima didn't try to imitate to whole love triangle stuff, if he did he would've made Lisanna more relevant, which he didn't, Natsu himself goes on more missions with Happy and Lucy than her, if Mashima wanted to make some love drama, he would've do it. Not sure, but read somewhere, that Lisanna was brought back just because the editor liked her, that's pretty much it.





That actually is confirmed to be a rumor by Nalu shippers who want some excuse to make their ship certain. Hiro has said on multiple occasions that Fairy Tail is meant to be a happy series, klling off Lissana would be contradictory to that statement. The exact wording of your Editor stament was, that the Anime director believed that she Lissana was still alive and that´s why he gave her more relevance in the flashback and compare her with Lucy (pairing trolling). But canon is that Lissana wants him and Happy as a family she wishes to be his bride, Natsu in typical shounen cliche is delusional to that proposal. There are other false rumors that Hiro wanted to end the series during the phantom lord arc, which makes even less sense since we didn´t even knew about Igneel and his whereabouts alot of promised stuff wasn´t revisited yet



As for the love triangle thing I´m pretty certain that he does want to imitate Kishi´s storytelling, it is very obvious who his inspirational sources are, especially Dragon Ball,and recently the whole Gray Uchiha jokes that came up make it safe to say that he at least has read some of Naruto. Also the similarities between One Piece were pretty apparent even back in Rave. For example how every Darkbring provides you with one power similar to Devil fruits, then again this all may backtrack to a 80´s or 90´s videogame where both authors took that inspiration from so Idk.

I´m not acusing anyone of ripoff here like all the One Piece fantards do. I´m just saying the similarities are there. As for him doing more with Lissana. She´s a side character and Hinata to be honest had way more screentime and memorable momments even in part one. But you must keep in mind Lissana was introduced back into the story around 200 chapters ago.  Hinatas real time to shine came around chapter 430 before that she had one inspirational speech for Naruto before he fought Neju and he cheered her on during the chunin exams. Everything else was pretty irellevant similar to Lissana.

It´s not unlikely for Lissana to not have shone yet.







Again with Lucy, maybe you personally don't like her (assuming ofc), and that's fine, but she's very "realistic", she's not as strong as Erza, but she still tries her best in her fights, even she admits it several times when they go on missions and stuff (example Oracion Seis, Grande Magic Games), that Juvia or Gajeel would be a better choice than her, she knows she's not strong, but she still tries her best.



No I´m certainly not a Lucy fan, but for example I do not like Ussop too much either so, there you go, anyway Lucy is just a boring character in my book, especially the whole comedy revolving around her isn´t funny for me. I like some of Fairy Tails jokes but Lucy tends to be always nude humor which has just become stale at this point.

But like I said to each his own, she´s not a bad character, she´s actually one of the most developed ones, like Ussop but that doesn´t mean that I must like her.To be frank Lucy is at her best when she does nothing related to Fairy Tail her backstory and relationship with her spirits is way better written than anything she does with Natsu Gray or Erza
 
  • #43
KingAce261 said:
Fairy Tail really has just been getting worse and worse and worse after the tartuourus arc. First when Natsu came back and I saw his boost I was like aww yeah Natus is finally the badass he was meant to be and the final battle is coming up. Then when avatar came I was like AWW YEAH GRAY FINALY GETS SOME CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT. Then when it left I was like "WTF is this shit" then after thinking about it I thought it was probably the editors who ruined it and just made it a way to showcase their power and while the arc could have been better as in much better and gave gray character development it's not the end of the world, but then it became the end of the world. After avatar I find it impossible to get hyped up for the next arc even I'm thinking all the hype for the 12 spiriggans is gonna turn out to be the opposite so I just can't get hyped. I felt a lil hyped when I learned they might be going to war and finally it won't just be FT going in gorilla style but then Erza ruined that by sending everyone on a wild goose chase to find gramps whom they do not know where he is, who knows who could have a plan with that God Serena and not need resucing and is it impossible for Erza to not be the worst GM ever and make a small team that could actually be somewhat good at an infiltration (like Gray, Mest, and Gajeel) instead she makes a small team of five that fail before they even get to the country they are supposed to be infiltrating and she never told anyone to be on high alert or that enemies may come and you have to stay here to protect the guild, so if this was real life they already lost. Now I know they are gonna go in gorilla style and probably fight the 12 spirrigans and then like always win which means the hype is gone. Now the only thing I can look forward to is the final battle arc(s) and I beg plead and pray they don't ruin that for me. Honestly I would have dropped this manga a few chapters back if some irrational part of my heart didn't tell me to keep reading because Hiro will show us the great Faiey Tail again because I know he can do better than the shit I have been reading since the end of torturous even though it may ruin my good memories of it, I still read it in hopes that the amazing and my favorite series fairy tail from tarturous back will return, but lately that hope has be dimming more and more and I think I am just torturing myself on false hope. First they ruin TV and now they ruin Faory Tail

i think you should probably take a break from this manga for a year if thats how you feel. weekly it might be disappointing but as a whole this arc will probably be good.
 
  • #44
Lol the infiltration didn't even last one chapter.  I'll be pretty surprise if no one actually saw this coming.



Currently I'm interested in the B team. Wonder how they are going to help out. Good to see Gajeel taking the lead.
 
  • #45
Isterio said:
To be honest I don´t care and I see neither a love interest in both of them from Natsu´s side. Actually I already know which pairings will certainly be canon because of several  hints in the manga.



Laxus+Mira

Jellal+Erza

Juvia+Gray

Levy+Gajeel

Elfman+Ever



If you disagree with any I gladly explain why I make those predictions and with some of them Hiro is trolling around but knowing him as a writer for over 10 years it´s quite obvious that he´s going for them. Hiro is also way more open minded than Kishi in that regard he was a delinquent during his youth and has drawn hentai for a friend. He´s not embarrased to write love stories. Ellie and Haru was decently written.

I can imagine Hiro ending the story without hooking up Natsu with any girl but make him just go on a mission with Lucy and Happy as friends.



That actually is confirmed to be a rumor by Nalu shippers who want some excuse to make their ship certain. Hiro has said on multiple occasions that Fairy Tail is meant to be a happy series, klling off Lissana would be contradictory to that statement. The exact wording of your Editor stament was, that the Anime director believed that she Lissana was still alive and that´s why he gave her more relevance in the flashback and compare her with Lucy (pairing trolling). But canon is that Lissana wants him and Happy as a family she wishes to be his bride, Natsu in typical shounen cliche is delusional to that proposal. There are other false rumors that Hiro wanted to end the series during the phantom lord arc, which makes even less sense since we didn´t even knew about Igneel and his whereabouts alot of promised stuff wasn´t revisited yet



As for the love triangle thing I´m pretty certain that he does want to imitate Kishi´s storytelling, it is very obvious who his inspirational sources are, especially Dragon Ball,and recently the whole Gray Uchiha jokes that came up make it safe to say that he at least has read some of Naruto. Also the similarities between One Piece were pretty apparent even back in Rave. For example how every Darkbring provides you with one power similar to Devil fruits, then again this all may backtrack to a 80´s or 90´s videogame where both authors took that inspiration from so Idk.

I´m not acusing anyone of ripoff here like all the One Piece fantards do. I´m just saying the similarities are there. As for him doing more with Lissana. She´s a side character and Hinata to be honest had way more screentime and memorable momments even in part one. But you must keep in mind Lissana was introduced back into the story around 200 chapters ago.  Hinatas real time to shine came around chapter 430 before that she had one inspirational speech for Naruto before he fought Neju and he cheered her on during the chunin exams. Everything else was pretty irellevant similar to Lissana.

It´s not unlikely for Lissana to not have shone yet.



No I´m certainly not a Lucy fan, but for example I do not like Ussop too much either so, there you go, anyway Lucy is just a boring character in my book, especially the whole comedy revolving around her isn´t funny for me. I like some of Fairy Tails jokes but Lucy tends to be always nude humor which has just become stale at this point.

But like I said to each his own, she´s not a bad character, she´s actually one of the most developed ones, like Ussop but that doesn´t mean that I must like her.To be frank Lucy is at her best when she does nothing related to Fairy Tail her backstory and relationship with her spirits is way better written than anything she does with Natsu Gray or Erza



I don't think Laxux+Mira might end up as a couple, the rest I could see it, again if Hiro wants to pair them up, its up to him, he could end the manga, and no one would be a pairing, unless he does some form of fma ending with pictures, and we see the pairing having kids and such.



That rumor could be true, I can't say that it was made by a NaLu shipper or not, but I can't say what you said it's true lol True that he's not shy to write love stories. And yeah, he was reckless in his youth, he said that's why Natsu is like that too.



Actually Mashima stated a lot of times, that he loves games, and he is influenced by them, also Dragon Ball and something with muscles.. don't know the exact name of the manga lol



Yea, as I said you don't need to like Lucy, I personally do. But I said that stuff, because that dude said Lisanna is a better character than Lucy, and well it's not true, Lisanna might get some spotlight in the upcoming arcs, and that's fine, but for now she's still useless. Personally I would've like for her to stay dead, I don't hate her, and hate is a weak word to say, but I can't say she's a good character since she's done nothing.
 
  • #46
Does Laxus get sick on transportation? I don't think he does, so maybe only the first generation and third generation dragon slayers are the only ones to get it once they have the potential to use dragon force. That would also explain why Cobra doesn't get sick on transportation.
 
  • #47
ahsinam33 said:
KingAce261 said:
] Also Erza is and knows she is at this point not even the top 3 anymore, ever since natsu and gajeel got dual elements they surpassed her and Gray too when he got ice devil slayer magic. Laxus is still a badass poweerhouse and always will be same goes for Girldarts on the other hand Erza is Mira equal so no she did not have to go no matter how dangerous

What on earth are you basing this on? Natsu might be stronger but there's no definitive way of determining that. And what makes you think Laxus is better than Erza? I'm not trying to pick a fight but come on, everything you said isn't exactly based on facts, it's simply based on how much you like certain characters and how much you dislike others.



Yeah this is clearly biased. Ezra is essential superman she will always be a storing as she needs to be no explanations. That means stronger then you. She is still top tier, and defiantly ahead of gajeel, since when are his shadows comparable to Lauxus lightning.
 
  • #48
Cait Shelter again lulz.

Dem ninja skills xD

And there goes the infiltration ^^

Kinda weird to see Wendy too with motion sickness, pretty sure she didn't have any problems before, only Natsu. I guess age has something to do with that.

Nice jutsu ^^
 
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