Fairy Tail Chapter 428 Discussion

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Omg I knew it! Levy is part of the council now! Didn't really expect it to be part of the action team but whatever!



I feel pain in gray eyes somehow... His eye look like sad....
 
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wtfitsmegaman said:
kakoa1234 said:
kaitonic said:
This is getting so far and really nice to see Levi again as she follow Gajeel and i guess Gajeel might be the one to free Natsu and Lucy.

So hyper for next week double chapter.....



https://twitter.com/hiro_mashima/status/587563865136742400 In the next 4 weeks we are going to have 2 chapters each :D



you can say about him what you want but he is a really harding working guy..I still remember the time where we got 3 chapters in one week:)



Yeah. he is one of the most hardworking shounend mangaka.
 
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Yoru91 said:
Isn't crime Sorciere supposed to be tracking and Killing off dark guilds? If so i can see jellal and comrades showiung up sooner or later.



It´s already guaranteed that Jellal will be a mayor player in the final arc (The execution will show how good it´ll be)

But regarding Avatar he´ll only show up if Erza get´s involved.



No Erza=no Jellal.





One of Hiros biggest issues is his planning, he decides lot´s of details on a whim, making his foreshadowing sometimes pretty shit which is why the Daimatou Enbu felt so stupid for many.



This issue goes even back to Rave Master where he introduced Rionette, who was hinted to be some big threat, gues what? Oneshot!



He mentioned in a Q&A that he would take his character traits he failed to portray  into a new manga and here he was in Fairy tail as Keith.



But that shouldn´t be neccecary, just by slowing down a little he could create a story that rivals Naruto´s or One Piece´s but the guy simply moves too fast with his pacing.

Basicly the opposite of One Piece.



You wanna say Hiro slow down we wanna savor this fight.
 
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sarroush said:


Gajeel, you made this chapter with your logic. <3

Lucy, you made this chapter with your guts to bitchslap Gray. He deserved that and even more.



You want him to die that fine. But I hope you dont actually think that will happen. I am pretty sure that even though Lucy is the narrator the character the is the stand in for the author is Gray. He is not the first person we have me will to do somthing  that endanger the lives of many people. Juvia and Gajeel were two fo our first and here they are now. Natsu looks up to Laxus and he very willingly and unpossessed risk the lives of many people for dumb reasons.  oH and logical chracters are rarely strong characters. Its only happy go lucky idots who get to always back up thier ideals with their fists. If gajeel fights gray he is gonna lose so bad.[/quote]



In the same paragraph I said "It's obviously not going to happen."[/quote]



Before I get spoiler tagged because I called this shit.

After 10 years of Hiro writing I can call this, Gray is on a undercover mission where he intends to destroy/kill Zeref by himself.

I don´t know when it will be revealed but it´ll happen.

There´s a high probability that it won´t get revealed within the next weeks and we´ll always will get some trolling about how he is actually evil and wants revenge.

Reasons why Gray hasn´t actually changed:

Whenever he called out on his "emptyness" and his wish for revenge he was surounded by some antagonist hearing that.

Zeref himself is responsible for all the shit that happened in his life, all the hardships he went through are caused by Zeref indirectly or directly. Why would he join a guild worshipping him and intend to kill E.N.D aka Natsu who was  created to destroy Zeref in the first place. There is no justifyable motive explaining Gray as an actual assistant for Avatar.



Hiro Mashima has proven recently to be heavily inspired by Naruto. No I don´t mean just the Gray Uchiha stuff his romance writing is the same as Kishis teasing several ships for the fans to fangirl over.

And believe me there will be a shitstorm by the end there will be.

I´m calling Juvia and Gray babys by the end everything else I´m uncertain but we´ll have a lot of couples certainly.

His One Piece inspiration should be obvious by now, even Rave Master was complained over because Darkbrings were too similar to Devil fruits initially according to some rumors.





So here´s my rundown on this.

Natsu isn´t an actual demon. There are 0 indications for this to be a true.



Here are some spoilers regarding Rave Master which probably are the inspiration for Fairy tails endgame. Don´t read if you intend to read Rave Master or if you´re afraid to get your fun for Fairy tail spoiled.




Ellie the heroine of the story aka Resha Valentine lived and was born 70 years in the past before the main story takes place.

She had put herself into some sort of  magical slumber (similar to cryostasis) therefore she remained the same age



At first we are told through Hiro that she´s an artifical human created to posses the ability of Etherion (strongest power in Rave), which doesn´t matter to her friends they love her anyway, since Ellie is Ellie. This get´s later explained to be a failed assumption by the person who called that out and we get her whole backstory explained.

Showing us that she was just a normal girl gifted with powers.





From what we know Natsu should be at least around 100 years old maybe 500+ years.

Depending on when Zeref "created" him which depends on Igneels attempt to destroy E.N.D. Which also although unlikely could have been actually 18 years ago or however old Natsu is.



Why Natsu is not a demon




Ok back to my explanation why Natsu isn´t a demon.

Natsu requires food, he has nothing evil to him but more the naivete of your typical shounen main hero. He values life,has some naughty thought´s towards women and he feels love for his guild.



Demons stressed out to be incapble of having those feelings, they think of humans just as lowly creatures, their life entirely isn´t anything similar to living being which Natsu is the exact opposite of.

Now here kicks the Naruto inspiration in, remember how Mitsuki called Naruto "the Fox spirit", well it´s a similar case.

Natsu has a power/demon/ability sealed inside of him.



Natsus possible actual backstory




I have 2 theories regarding this:



A: Natsu was an orphan infant that survived the procedure of getting E.N.D sealed inside of him, which we´ll probably see in a flashback only mentioned or alot of dead babys.

(Keep in mind most of the FT cast are orphans by some means, even Lucy became one by now).



B: Hiro took this idea from Dragon Ball and Natsu is something similar to Kami. Basicly everything good within Zeref manifesting himself as the pure being E.N.D.

Which seperated himself from Zeref to destroy that evil entity.



Natsu being the actual Zeref while the Zeref we got shown being just an entity created through the malice and hate of humans and whatnot explaining his immortality.



Either way, the explanation for Zerefs destruction will possibly not be Natsu alone but more of a team effort empowering him and possibly a Unison Raid between him and Gray or maybe even between the whole guild with the power of love (keep in mind in FT love is the foundation of magic).



Purifying/destroying the Zeref who is made out of malice and hate and shit.



The reason Natsu/E.N.D couldn´t destroy Zeref in the past will be that he didn´t had find love untill then therefore the purification was impossible.



Mavis comes in and explains that Zeref always got the power of "E.N.D" all wrong all the time because malice cannot erase malice. Therefore his "good part" only subconciously implanted that magic within a "pure" infant thinking he would grant it with huge demonic  powers for Zerefs "purification" when all along the real deal was that he implanted a catalyst spell inside of the child enabling "everyones love" to flow through Zeref destroy the malice and purify him.



If B is true it´s the same deal Natsu is just the conduit to destroy "Malice"not an actual demon.
 
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kakoa1234 said:
Z4k said:
aos10 said:
gray didn't remove the FT mark

he put the new one above the old one

Exactly what I thought.



Btw we were right when we said Gray wasnt possessed or being controlled :)



Yeah we said he was a acting bad, but we got right when we said he was sain.





except he is clearly getting insane from his power. THat counts as controlled.

Levy outright repeated that too - it does not feel like Gray, its as if his heart is filed with dark.

That's no different from F-Rogue.





molassus said:


Natsu STAHP with the Friendship BS, it's embarassing -_-'.





Just how is it a BS



Everything Nasu said is logical - guild is the relationships formed and not the mark. You can't erase your experiences by simply removing the mark.









Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post.



Mod Edit: Removed baiting.
 
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Well dang, that fight didn't really last long at all. Haha, it did feel a bit early for such a pivotal confrontation anyway. Honestly, I would prefer to see a Gajeel vs Gray fight first, especially after what Gajeel said.



G_Spark233 said:
Next week is a colour cover and 2 chapters! So hyped to see that!Great news to hear! Double the dose for this present arc is a good thing indeed!
 
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This is getting so far and really nice to see Levi again as she follow Gajeel and i guess Gajeel might be the one to free Natsu and Lucy.

So hyper for next week double chapter.....
 
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CookingPriest said:
Raven-kun said:
Reveler said:
Natsu: Gray what are you doing when Sakura is waiting for you? We're taking you back to Konoha.

Gray: Konoha is long gone. I erased it from my heart.



At the same time Levy using her Assassin's Creed blending skill returns to outpost.



Levy: Will you be able to stop Gray? He was your friend.



Gajeel: He's not anymore. Now he's a rogue ninja and must be stopped.





Can we please stop with unfitting nardo comparisons when the situation does not even fit?



The similarities are there if you like it or not and they will continue for a while it´s not gonna be executed the same way but it is Nardo inspired and the jokes are justified.



Hiro is inspired by Naruto and One Piece. His favorite author is Akira toriyama.



Simply saw how it was done right and now he copies certain things.
 
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omg okay confession time: I never really liked Gray all that much tbh, and this isn't helping. I wouldn't mind if Gajeel killed him. I know he probably has a different motive, but still, he's annoying me.



Speaking of Gajeel, my respect for him increased chapter. He's able to think clearly and realistically about things, even if that includes having to fight a former friend to save peoples lives. And all the while he's definitely not an evil person who plans to possibly kill Gray just because. So here's a medal Gajeel.
 
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