Fairy Tail Chapter 385 Discussion

  • #114
short_review said:
There is one thing I dislike in this chapter : why does Lucy change clothes? and wtf are these ribbons?



After a bit of thinking I figured it looked like Aquarius's outfit but in that case why didn't Mashima give her the same outfit? It would have been clearer. And wtf are these ribbons?



Wtf are these ribbons?



I don't really like it, it makes luffy extra childish, she looks like wendy with blond hair.



5/5 minus 1 because of the childish Lucy



Lucy was badass.

She needed new outfit. Her boobs (they get bigger with every chapter too)  would fall out while casting Urano Metria (and some people would complain that in moment of glory Lucy was reduced to fanservice girl).



Notice a tatto above her boobs similar to what's on her bra. It looks like giant W or flowing water as symbol of Aquarius ^_^
 
  • #116
Finally Urano Metria. Really nice seeing BA Lucy kicking ass. About time Hiro ^^;



I'm also wondering if this will be permanent? If it is then I doubt we'll be seeing Aquarious again. But as mentioned it would overlap with Juvia. I actually doubt it'll be permanent but...



I'm guessing now that Lucy has summoned The KOS and he respects her this much, he'll allow her the privilege to use any Spirit's Magic by herself. That would actually be awesome...then Lucy can finally start being BA kicking ass by herself.



That would remind me of Fate/Illya with how she equips the cards and changes looks and power depending on the type.



Imagining Archer Sagittarius Lucy XD or Taurus Lucy :3



I do agree she looks childish here -.- Well there are boobs so who cares :P
 
  • #117
DarkMoonWolf said:
Fai said:
I can help but feel there's some sort of sexist bias in your post.

Wait!! What??

Where the hell did you pulled that from?!?!?



Anyway, you talked about Natsu, however effectively speaking Natsu has the follow solutions:

* ability to regenerate magic by eating fire

* Dragon Roar (DR)

* Dragon Wing (DW)

* Dragon punch - (DP) - (?? ok I admit I'm not sure about the name, I believe he called it something sky piercing or whatever)

* Dragon Force (effectively boosting dragon magic)

* Dual element (fire-lightning) with injury to his own body



Now let's look better and resume this, one ranged attack (DR), one melee attack (DP), and one that can be used either way (DW). One way to boost his magic status and magic power. At his own peril the ability to wield dual element magic.



Now let's look at Lucy:

Spirits:

* Aquarius (ranged)

* Leo (mainly melee, lion punch can be ranged)

* Virgo (melee)

* Gemini (can adopt the powers - on lesser scale - of everyone it wants)

* Sagittarius (ranged - supposedly never misses no matter the distance)

* Cancer (melee)

* Capricorn (melee)

* Scorpio (melee+ranged)

* Taurus (melee)

* Clock (not used for combat, but still a great shield)

* Aries (basically useless for combat mode. still a good cushion)

Spirits result: 5 melees, 2 ranged, 2 that can go either way, 1 shield.



Weapon: Celestial Whip (ranged)



Magic attack: 88 stars (ranged)





If Lucy keeps Aquarius power, this is a simulation of a death fight against her: Enemy vs Leo+Capricorn+Virgo+Lucy

Enemy forced on a melee fight while Lucy keeps using ranged aquarius power to weaken his attacks. At some point she'll pull one melee, and set Gemini transformed in Aquarius on attack, while at the same time prepares to launch the 88 stars attack. If the enemy at any point gets to close she can use the whip, and if he uses a ranged attack able to destroy everything around she'll use the clock as a shield. Is this not OP to you?!?!? 4 against 1 with a array of ranged and melee solutions at the same time leaving no open spaces....



Think about it. she's now using only one spirit (CSK) while fighting 3 opponents at the same time!!!! Imagine if she was able to control 3 spirits at the same time!!! Yes they would not be as powerful, but then again the use of CSK is due to the power of the enemy in question. Good thing that at least (so far) as long as CSK is summoned, she isn't able to summon more spirits, however, something tells me that on the next chapters, until she releases someone or gets more help that's exactly what is gonna happen...



Now I really would like to know where the hell did you pulled that sexist comment from.....



Edit: Had forgotten scorpio... 10 golden keys+clock key should be right now...



I am sorry man, stopped taking you seriously when you equalized every spirit to a different power.

The fact that you conveniently forgot about a half of Natsu's attacks also proves my point. He had roar, wing and punch within first ~20 chapters. Then he got Wing Attack, Iron Fist, Brilliant Flame and bunch of other different attacks every single arc.



And then he got the Lightning mode which has variation of every single attack of his but with lightning added.



And as Said before comparing to other female characters, both Erza and Mira have about 3x the powerset amount that Lucy has, being able to comparably hold their own in most situations they are placed in.





Counting Lucy's spirits as separate attacks is like counting Natsu's normal punches as a special attack. All summoning does a same thing summon a spirit(99% of time useless one).



Lucy is one of two main characters of the show, yet unlike Natsu's her win ratio is pretty much 0, because she has no real options in her fight and her durability suffers.





Natsu gets power up every arc. This arc Mira and even freaking Wendy got massive power-ups, so why should not Lucy, who has been the weakest in the group due to her lack durability and firepower?



So yeah, wishing to take away the thing that can equalize her with the male lead IS sexist, since I am pretty sure so far I have proven your arguments as bullshit.



MShukyDeneuve said:




I think mashima forced Lucy's power-up.



I'll never understand bullshit like this.



Celestial Spirit Mage eventually being able to use powers of celestial spirit by herself is far more logical than:



- Natsu randomly eating lightning and gaining it because lol

- Everyone running out of mana then going "LUL, we use tomorrow's then"

- 99% of bullshit in Nardo.
 
  • #118
short_review said:
There is one thing I dislike in this chapter : why does Lucy change clothes? and wtf are these ribbons?



After a bit of thinking I figured it looked like Aquarius's outfit but in that case why didn't Mashima give her the same outfit? It would have been clearer. And wtf are these ribbons?



Wtf are these ribbons?



I don't really like it, it makes luffy extra childish, she looks like wendy with blond hair.



5/5 minus 1 because of the childish Lucy





LMAO the ribbons! I had the exact same reaction! I hated that too. I felt like Mashima gave Lucy a "Loli transformation" and face palmed because of it -.-
 
  • #120
Awesome chapter. The Celestial Spirit King and King of Hades are both insanely strong and Lucy was pretty awesome as well. Makes sense that the Celestial Spirit King didn't leave Lucy defenceless. 5/5
 
  • #121
Dark_Messiah said:
^I dont think summoning 3 spirits while shes out of juice is OP,. Put the enemy's ability into acct. She used whip on Jackal but no use, she summoned Aquarius but now shes immovable.. Her spirit will end up worrying her and cant focus in battle.. look at those previous battle with Leo and Virgo wipe out instantly..

The point I'm trying to make is that 3 spirits+whip+88 stars should be enough. Aquarius powers should stay with Aquarius and a new key be forged.



IMO Lucy permanently keeping Aquarius power will break the character balance that is created.
 
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