Fairy Tail Chapter 368 Discussion

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  • #34
Pretty interesting chapter.



After going through all 6 pages of discussion (yes, I read every single comment... I need a life XD), there seems to be several discussions that I'm interested in. So I'll start.



1. Is Jellal dead? (I miss the old translation of Gerard better, but meh... what's done is done, so I shouldn't complain)



No. At least not permanently. We all know that Hiro Mashima pretty much always brings back main characters when they die or trolls us with a fake death. And now we're just wondering which.



So first, we have the theory that all of it is currently an illusion planned by Jellal and Oracion Seis to fool Tartarus. This theory is more of a gut-feeling because of Hiro Mashima's inclination of turning "bad guys" into allies in the end and "the power of Nakama trumps all!" We've seen it all already - Lyon and gang making up with Gray and everyone, Gajeel and Juvia joining Fairy Tail after they each obliterated their respective HQs, Jellal and gang becoming fast allies. (Gazelle, not Gajeel damn it! All right, I'll stop complaining, lol please don't kill me) And now, Oracion Seis will most likely become their allies. This would hold true to his style as a manga artist. But that would actually leave a few loopholes or if you want to look at it, open up possibilities, whichever you want to look at it (read theory 2).



And then we have the theory that Jellal is actually killed and then brought back to life using some sort of plot device. This is the "rational" theory if the first theory is more of an emotional "gut-feeling". We need 3 of the ex-counselors dead to lift the seal of FACE. Jellal is one of them. And to make the plot advance and see what FACE brings, we need him dead. But of course, Mashima won't kill him permanently that as it's not his style and the fans will raid his house and kidnap his children besides. So he will most likely die and then be brought back using another plot device though who will bring him back raises another question.



OR... possibility 3: the illusion that Oracion Seis worked on with Jellal is so powerful that it "fools" even the magical system protecting FACE and FACE gets unsealed anyway.



Anyway, moving on...



2. Just who is Silver?



There's the theory that he is future Gray because he bears a similar scar to the one on Gray's face. This could either be used to strengthen this theory or it could be brushed off as a "mere" coincidence. Remember, hair color - lol.



With Eclipse destroyed, however (remember both future Rogue and future Lucy came back when Eclipse was in action), it doesn't seem likely that this is future Gray (nor his future son, twin brother, etc). They don't have a portal to access and transport him here anymore. Also, the previous arc involving Eclipse is done and over. Bringing back time travel just seems pointless, won't make sense, and also makes these plot devices kind of cheap.



And then there's the possibility that he is Gray's father. He does know Natsu after all, but he seems to think of him nostalgically, which brings up the possibility of him being Gray's father if not future Gray. We need a few more chapters so that the clarity can be a bit more solid and official, but I may go back and read a few chapters to see if I can scrump up a few more details to back my theories.



Finally, with all the DBZ analogies used in this thread, what with Piccolo, Trunks, time travel... I officially call dibs on Kyouka being Frieza. Come on, she looks like him (we should have a side-by-side picture of the two of them), she tortures people like him (*cough* Frieza beats Vegeta to death *cough*), and plus I just want to call dibs on a character XD.



Sorry for the long post. Got a bit enthusiastic. Don't kill me XD
 
  • #35
Having the same scent as Gray doesn't necessarily means Silver is future gray.

At this point, present Gray should already have knowledge that Natsu was captured.

If Silver indeed came from future, he shouldn't be shocked or bemoan Natsu being captured.
 
  • #37
RandomCommenter said:
Benphyre said:
Having the same scent as Gray doesn't necessarily means Silver is future gray.

At this point, present Gray should already have knowledge that Natsu was captured.

If Silver indeed came from future, he shouldn't be shocked or bemoan Natsu being captured.



Alternate timelines. The FT universe seems to revolve around the concept of time travel sending you to an alternate timeline. Future rogue came from a separate timeline than future lucy, for example. In the same way, Silver could quite easily be Gray from a separate future in which FT wasn't able to fight back and Natsu wasn't captured.





Ok I'll buy that.



In that case, Silver bemoaning Natsu being capture could possibly means his identity would be easily be revealed by scent.
 
  • #38
Okay, Silver just killed off Lisana fan service.
 
  • #39
Darklight0303 said:
Behemoth11 said:
Darklight0303 said:
Behemoth11 said:
Darklight0303 said:
Behemoth11 said:
I mean the magic tournament arc.



They're unrelated.



Wrong. In one of  Mashimas reviews of tankōbon 32 he stated himself that Zeref will show up.

If you remember Igneel said also that it's time to show up for him.

The tournament arc should turn out to a new dragonfeast that contains dragons, humans and demons. That was mentioned long time ago.



Now Mashima is doing that what he couldn't do before.



There's no reason to when there's other arcs to do it. If Igneel failed 400Years ago to destroy end he would fail now as well. Dragons will NOT show up.



Igneel is the only one who has knowledge about END and this time he isn't alone.



You presume he was alone 400 years ago. If anything the fact that Atlas Flame knows of the battle proves there were other dragons there as well.



Doesn't make sense. Atlas was saying that Igneel alone tried to destroy END. If Atlas was present 400 years ago and fought alongside Igneel he had said "we tried to destroy the book but failed".
 
  • #40
I may have loved the chapter for the twist.

Mashima making Zero for that final blow is playing dirty!!

Jellal better not be dead ,he can't die like this

You can't !!! Or I will cry my eyes out

First Seighart now Jellal T^T

Jellal be alright or heal somehow ahhhhhhh



The nakedness or Erza is a woah and she's enduring it

Sayla doesn't make an evil face but Kyuoka does?!

Cana has a good feeling I go with what she says

Next chapter ,hoping he's not dead( Jellal)
 
  • #41
Darklight0303 said:
Mirai_Kaze said:
Face HAS to be activated. Hiro wouldn't bring in a weapon/magic atifact and keep it unused (Etherion, Eclipse Gate anyone?). And the only way to trigger Face is to kill Jellal, so he MUST die eventually. Maybe not now, or maybe he'll be brought back to life somehow, but he has to die at some point for Face to go off, no way around.



But if face goes off everyone is rendered powerless. It's a game over state. It doesn't work at this point in the series

Yes but that's where the time travel kicks in. And I don't see y Igneel can't have a chance of defeating END. I mean the last time he tried was 400 years ago. He might show up and give a fight.
 
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