Fairy Tail Chapter 368 Discussion

"Lucy has plot relevance? Are you kidding me? All she did during the whole series was getting naked for fan service and being saved by Natsu."



lucy actually has plot relevance. she's going to get all 12 keys soon "the gate that's going to change the world" apparently and then there's that bit about her Mum

Jellal is not going to die, he has a lot of plot armor unfortunately. He bores me, so I don't really care if he did die for real.



Cana was really awesome when she gave Elfman a verbal beating in words. He deserves it for being incredibly oblivious



Ariana wears spider type clothing despite disliking spiders. Seems legit.



I hope my Precious Gray-sama's future version isn't Silver.

My prediction is that OC joined Jellal earlier and Nightmare used his power to create illusion to fake Jellal death at some point to blind tartaros.

kana seems to have understood that something is wrong with elfman. all i hope is that she can stop them.

and jellal can't be DEAD.....he may be defeated but definitely not dead.

he is not that weak to be killed with a single blow,it was really powerful, i agree but still....

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                        Holy crap! This arc has been filled with many unpredictable events! O.o There's no way Jellal died there though, right?

Aerensianic said:




To be fair, your comparing them to the two leads of the series lol. Erza's character is relevant still though, while literally everything but the romance that was pulled out of Mashim's ass that Jellal has done post revival could easily have been done by other characters with out altering the story one bit.

She IS in the main team, hell at some points in the future her relevance may even fall compared to other DSs like Wendy and Gajeel. And one of the most powerful characters, with lots of knowledge about the magic world, with a relationship with a major character and not even in FT guild but works behind the scene to cover their backs is someone who can be thrown out without altering the story one bit? No, not really. But once again we can agree to disagree and drop it here.



pkKodama said:


Lucy has plot relevance? Are you kidding me? All she did during the whole series was getting naked for fan service and being saved by Natsu.

Technically in Rave her counterpart Ellie also has the same treatment until they discover her true power, just that Mashima constant abuses her as a chew toy makes people usually overlook her character.



Trayce said:
The point is some of us want Jellal dead, because he's annoying and boring insect that is plaguing this manga.

Yeah like this Manga will be any better without him *cough Natsu cough*

Aerensianic said:
Every character has flaws and Erza is no exception. I just don't like how Jellal is now a cheap plot device for romance/drama for her. Since FT was not originally planned this far I give him some credit for ending things how they did originally: The guy she looked up to who got corrupted was finally put down for good and even had a moment of clarity realizing he became evil because of twisted ideals. This allowed her to get closure and move on with her life. Now since FT continued he got revived (maybe at the convincing of his editor like with Lisanna?) and how is just there so she can have drama over the "will they or won't they" question, and it was poorly done.

Erza lacks plot relevance compared to say, Lucy and her mysterious relationship with Celestial realm/mother or Natsu and dragons/Zeref. She and Jellal have to rely and create plot relevance for each other. Well the romance execution is indeed bad, but I have always separated it with the characters themselves, as Mashima actually some develop Jellal decently in this arc. Well we can agree to disagree here.



Anyway, here is a comprehensive post about the Illusion theory for those who are interested:


Final Giku Tenshou said:
Except this time instead of pulling the wool over the eyes of the Council members, he is pulling the wool over the eyes of Tartaros and the ex Chairman of the Council. I mean let's think about the necessary things that would have to happen here first in order for the chain of events to transpire that just fucking occurred.



Jellal went through this fight without a single use of his magic:



In what fucking world is Jellal going to encounter five opponents of formidable strength (and let's give OS their just dues, they are a formidable fucking force especially when they fight together as a team, which they've already proven they are incredibly good at) and not use any of his magical spells at all? He used Meteor once throughout the entire fight, no sign of Grand Chariot, no sign of Altarius, he didn't even use Meteor except once during the entire ordeal.



Jellal told Meredy to stand back because this is something he must do on his own:



This probably pushed my biggest alarm button of all, Jellal knows exactly what type of magic Meredy uses, he also knows that Oracion Seis is a very tight knit group as evidenced by Cobra pulling the diplomatic shit he did to get them freed and the group fighting an opponent together who they perceive to be a threat to their own freedom. If his intention was to subdue Oracion Seis in order to get them to keep them in line as per his assumed agreement with Doranbolt releasing them then Meredy is the most logical choice with her Sensory Link spell.



Zero has to revive without any of the prayers used to seal him falling:



Mashima would have to be nearly fucking insane to break this establishment without proper reasoning and I don't think even he is willing to go quite this far, unless Brain created a failsafe for Zero to revive in the event that he should be defeated (which he would have to do in prison by the way because he sure as hell didn't have one when Jura defeated him) then how in the hell is Zero even here right now much less laughing like a maniac and causing carnage just like his old self, he didn't even act properly at all, the Zero I remember was confident enough in himself to not even worry about performing sneak attacks, he flat out announced himself to Natsu, Gray, and Lucy before owning them all single handedly and then DARED everyone there to come get him if they felt like it.



You know what can explain all of this though? There is one thing that can explain everything:



http://www.mangastream.to/fairy-tail-chapter-155-page-17.html

http://www.mangastream.to/fairy-tail-chapter-120-page-9.html



Illusion magic could explain all of these events happening, especially if it were being used to play a trick on someone, and we have two people in this fight who have the option to use it, Jellal who knows Mystogan's magic, and Midnight who has his own illusion magic.



Now why would they need to fool anyone? Because of this:



http://readms.com/r/fairy_tail/368/2226/14



Jellal likely knows the Ex Councilman's magic is a magic which search through the continent for mages, and he also probably knows that he is the last remaining link to activating Face, thus by making Tartaros think he is dead he will effectively lure Tartaros into his own trap. Since Midnight's magic is of a visual type, and we have seen his reaction to Jellal's death in this chapter, I concur that Midnight is most likely using an illusion magic to fool the Chairman and Tartaros into thinking Jellal is dead.



Of course knowing this doesn't explain exactly how Midnight's illusion magic could affect the vision of a magic on the scale of this guy's archive, but since it's Mashima we're unlikely to get an explanation for what happened, however this without a doubt the most likely scenario that is unfolding in this chapter. It's the only thing that makes sense, why else would both Jellal and Zero act so out of character compared to everyone else?



Ladies and gentlemen I rest my case, Jellal is playing the motherfucking long con here, and it's going to be an epic as fuck finish

Jellal can't die like that!