Fairy Tail Chapter 324 Discussion

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Darklight0303 said:
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OP has had stupid concepts and out of the blue power ups?



FT is a battle shonen, therefore you are allowed to analyze its fights and rate it based upon them.



Ok, now analyzing things that Mash has done wrong with FT. It's a shonen about magic, yet his ideas for magic seem to be very limited and specialized. Which makes me wonder who the hell is teaching all of these people these very over powered and specific magics.



He has had to pull from the field of "lost" and "ancient" and "overpowered" magic.



Has a simple fire wizard even appeared in this series? Um, I guess you could include the first guy that Natsu fights and the one guy he saves.



Every other wizard has some ridiculously strong magic that would takes decades to learn, yet they learned it in a brief span of time.



Let's analyze Erza. She is an S-class wizard apart of Fairy Tale said to be on par with those of the 10 Wizard Saints. We see that Laxus, Gildarts, and Mystogan, more or less, shit on Erza in terms of power. So this means that Fairy Tale, including Makarov, have 5 total people at 10 Wizard Saint power. (Does this title mean anything?!)She's a pathetic character that has only declined in power since the start of the series. Only to gain it ALL back for a single moment to defeat a bad ass.



Redhawk, gear second, Zoro's 9 sword style, Robin's wings, don't even mention sanji's powers or how he nearly bled to death.



I agree and personally I prefer the fights in FT than most other series. Especially in the anime which blows the draggy OP fights out the water.



Dragons, other mages, self taught through knowledge gained and the lost/god magics we have yet to find out about but it seems to be gifted in some way.



Lost and ancient magics are common in many stories and myths. This is not exclusive to FT.



Romeo. Wait didn't you say that the magics were limited and specialized yet you want more people to have the same abilities. Most of the magics are variations on other magics we see which fits in with magic coming from the heart, it very much a personal style. If you want an example, Biska and Erza. Also many mages have more than one type of magic. (I hope that Erza teaches Lucy her magic so she no longer has the weak spot of having her keys stolen when not in use. But I don't think it would fit in with Lucy's personality to not have her keys by her side.)



Cana and Fairy Glitter being an example of a gifted magic that is extremely powerful and nullifies your point.



Being a Wizard Saint isn't based on power. They need to be extremely strong but this doesn't define them as being the 10 strongest beings in the world.



Declining in power? Gaining it all back to defeat a bad ass. Who is this bad ass? Don't say Minerva because she even said herself that she was no match for Erza in a fair fight. Erza has extreme durability and very quickly figures out weak spots in her opponents which she did.



How is Gear Second an ass pull? It's purely based upon his devil fruit. Same thing with Robin's wings. I will agree that Zoro's Asura and Sanji's Diable Jamble seemed like ass pulls.



The fights in FT are horrible though. There hasn't been anything entertaining about the fights since Tower of Heaven. (That's when I realized they would all end in nakama power 1 shots.



Lost and ancient magic is common in many stories and myths, yes. To the extend of FT's usage, no, not even close. FT is to the point that to even compete, you are required to have a lost or ancient magic. There isn't a single big name player anymore with a common style of magic. Even Erza's and Lucy's magic have proven to be extremely rare. Lost and ancient magics are like, dealt on the corner of L street by some shady dealers. "Yo dawg, want a lost magic, it will make you ridiculously strong and turn you into a super villain." "Sure dawg!"



"Being a Wizard Saint isn't based on power." Um, yes it is. That is EXACTLY what the 10 Wizard Saints are. They were defined as the 10 most powerful wizards in sanctioned "good" guilds. You must be thinking of the council of wizard elders, which had an entirely different function.



It is an asspull because he never trained for it and pulled it out into creation only when it was JUSt the thing to win the day.

He claims that he was training since his fight with Aokiji. He claimed that he wasn't able to compete with the big namers yet.



Yet we never saw it nor can you see the logical source from where that move came from. It's just uber convenient and really cool looking. That's all. It's still a grade A Asspull.



Gear third is not because he pretty much bites his thumb and inflates it like a baloon which would work for a rubber type body.

Gear Second expands his blood vessels because they're rubber which increases the blood flow in his body. It's still based upon his fruit, just like Gear Third.



If you haven't notice, we never see them train in One Piece, that's because that isn't the prime focus of the story. We know they train though simply by how time passes throughout the series.
 
  • #67
I feel like there is not a lot of content this chapter. (Guess will reread Mangastream Version later)



Well, we don't need to worry about Future Lucy dying since she is from the future after all, it will be different if the present Lucy did die. Unless if Mashima involves time paradox stuff which I think he won't.



Hmm, so that is the plan of the dragons eh? Can't wait to see if Lucy really did it, loving this ambiguity since we don't really know who is right or wrong.
 
  • #68
Hirouey said:
Darklight0303 said:
Hirouey said:
That whole scene involving the death of future Lucy and Natsu's reaction seemed all too familiar.



Well Mashima did tweet that we would see similarities with Rave Master in the next chapters



It's not Rave Master I'm talking about though, a similar death occurred in an earlier arc. It's not exactly the same, but it just feels like it.



You mean Rob? or Simon?
 
  • #69
Dark_Messiah said:
i drop this to my fav list coz of that tournament, now im bringing it back..



FT has the guts to kill important chara even though its not legitimate,.. wonder who stopped from opening the gate.. and does this mean that the future only lucy survived?? when the guild mark of future lucy is gone i almost cry,..



It's not the mark that is gone from Future Lucy. It's the whole ARM. For some reason I didn't feeling anything when future Lucy died. Maybe its cause I was sleepy.



What will happen now to future Lucy body? Will she unite with normal Lucy in next chapter and boost her power? The only thing that would make Present Lucy close the gate is "experience" future. What if Present Lucy will now inherit Future Lucy memories and pain of loosing everyone?
 
  • #70
Some interesting news from Mashima's Twitter:



I’m not making any progress with the name. There are times when I finish 20 pages in 2 hours, and there are also times when I can’t even get 1 page done in 10 hours.





ネームが進まない。2時間で20P終わる時もあれば、10時間かけても1Pも進まない時もある 。



It’s been a while since the last time my name was rejected entirely. I’m redoing all 20 pages. But since it’s for the sake of making an interesting story I won’t consider it all that troublesome.





久しぶりにネームの全ボツくらった。20P丸々書き直し。だけど面白い一話を作る為なら全く苦 じゃない。



Name here is basically a storyboard of a chapter.



To sum up Mashima’s chapter gets rejected ENTIRELY by the editors, and have to rewrite a new one again. This gives multiple meanings, like maybe he tried to kill someone off and the editors didn’t like this decision. This also means that now FT will go a different route compared to the planned note that has been released earlier (about Lucy kneeling before Zeref and such).
 
  • #71
Also why Horologium didnt save Future lucy ? It seems now that her spirits is like standing back equiping pop corn and watch like nothing happens.... I am saying that cause Horologium pop up from nowhere to save wendy when they fought Hades.
 
  • #72
YukinaxYupina said:
I feel stupid posting this question, but how did you guys come to the conclusion that future Lucy lost her arm?

IDK, it looked pretty intact to me...

When I read that I just thought it meant that she had no stamp on her hand, rather it was on her somewhere else on her body / erased.



We never saw her right arm and her writing was horrible with the left as the guard noted. She has no reason to have the tattoo on anywhere else on her body because she is not like Edolas Lucy. She is the same Lucy as the one we know only a little further in the future.
 
  • #73
Darklight0303 said:
bizbiz said:
i don't want to fall into clichés but i noticed that more than 90% who said they cried were female (Orulyon, Kanorin,RosyxKid, Farfallina, Renzhou48, Mgzem, sarrouch, animationqueen, Kimmy 122122)



And this proves once again what i said long time ago, this manga is more popular among women more than man, and you know how fucked up is this for a battle shonen manga? LOL

and what's more fucked up is that it's an ecchi manga, and women generally don't like ecchi... LOL



That proves how simple this manga is, simply create



-"Handsome" looking male character (for women)

-Women with big tits (for men)

-Random ass fights, it does not matter how they win, but the more important in  the fight is the end when natsu or someone else from FT says "I won't let you touch my nakama Don't touch my babe ..." (for men and women)

-Relationship between male and female characters just like shojo (destined for women)

so they will say "ohhh look how cute they are" nyyyya i wanted him to kiss herrrrrrr ohhhh(for women and some effeminate man)



WTF? HIRO dude just please stop writing shonen battle manga  you are a dishonor to this genre.



This simply can explain why this manga is on top 10 seller manga ; fan service. Done.



There are way better series with fanservice that are not even half as popular so that argument is very much false.



Not true I love e chi anime.

But then again is your opinion I personally love ecchi anime.

How is Hiro a dishonor? I want your point of view ,hard facts no limit say it. Probably in my comment ,or profile.( I just want to know). You don't have to answer.
 
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