Fairy Tail Chapter 296 Discussion

FastWheels said:
How come everybody hates Rogue?



What did he ever do?

People seem to just hate Sabertooth in general so much that they include Rogue in the hate. He was a tad bit cocky, but compare him to characters like Sting or Minerva, and he's a completely different character.

Fairy Tail is really bad.I keep reading hoping it will become good because it has potential but it always ends up bad

kevin_video said:
I'm sorry, but as much as I love Fairy Tail, I just could not like this chapter. It was WAY to EASY for Natsu to beat the twin dragons. There's no way that they're that weak by comparison to him. I know Fairy Tail's just another DBZ, but even Goku lost some of the time. Everyone went through the same training, but somehow Natsu was the one who got the most power up out of the deal. Was his secretly 100 times normal gravity while everyone else was only at 10 times? Geez.



Not true. You are propably imagining Gray and how miserably he lost. He lost in a game. Just like how Natsu was 2nd to last in his own game Gray was dead last. We never saw him fight.



Recall lucy finally mastering the star-spell. Recall how Wendy finally mastered some offensive Magic, and remember how Gazeel was pwning with the same efficiency.

The only reason you say that about Natsu is cuz he gets the most screen time in fights, but he is not the only one who powered up.

@Darklight0303, your main reason of accepting all this is that the Dragon guys were too hyped? Thats some nice reasoning right there...



If Natsu beat both Laxus and Mystogan in the beginning of entire saga, what would you say? That they were hyped and were actually not that strong? That can be said just about anything really, so your logic fails.



The fact that they can activate Dragon Force on their own proves that they are strong. How do I know that? Because Natsu beat Jellal with Dragon Force who was one of the 10 Ten Wizard Saints who are supposedly STRONG and they just don't let anyone in. If Natsu can beat two of guys equal to avarage strength of 10 Wizards then he might have just be among the powerful beings on the entire planet. And he acquired it in a very classy way too.



But I shouldn't push this matter any more. You are just to much of a fan to see reason.



SD_CV said:
A 3rd thing I'd love to have seen diffrent is..."losing". Because of the often random power ups, Natsu & co are getting somewhat "unbeatable"

I'm sure some or many like this but I prefer characters that achieve something because they worked for it ! They win, sometimes lose, train/work hard and overcome an earlier obstacle. Again, just my opinion.



Agreed, wholeheartedly.

SD_CV said:
If you read Fairy Tail for the action, then it get's a solid 5/5, you won't find another manga with better action very fast.



Agreed on this one



SD_CV said:


If however you want your manga to have a good story, then this manga is, slowly, getting worse compared to the arcs before this.



Grimore heart definetely stigmatised FT (for me) but I think that Acnologia and thereafter FT has been pretty awesome. True his story telling isnt the best and can get better but overall it's pretty good so far.



SD_CV said:


The first thing that bothers me is how Lucy seems to be someone with the roll of getting beaten most of the time (luckily not all the time...) just to give Natsu & co a reason to take revenge on the eneemy.



Definetely not true. The reason Lucy is all the time underestimated is cuz she's not a melee fighter like Erza. The times that what you said has happened are only 2(from what I recall, if you remember sth else please point it out).

One with the Phantom Lord (and there was good reason for that) and a 2nd time

now which was perfectly reasonable cuz Minerva stands at the top of ST equal to Erza(more or less). In her battle with Flare she really dominated. And a woman being the apple of discord is not sth special to FT.(I would name but forget it now)



SD_CV said:


2nd thing I dislike are the often random power ups, although that isn't really the case now, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about ;)

I'm not saying I'm against power ups, but I like them more if they have a (good) reason, like in One Piece or Dragonball and even Naruto.



Very true, but that was more Hiro's fault for waiting 100+ chapters to exlpain that that fight with Zero was Dragon Force(which even though it was brought up in the past it was never exlpained as an actual thing). But These absurd powerups and plot devices that help out FT to win REALLY don't happen so often as people make it out to be. My personal annoying momments are with Zero and Hades (nothing else) which leads me to believe that rather than FT getting random powerups Hiro can't really handle the idea of Dark guilds. Anyway..hopefully those things will be corrected.



SD_CV said:


A 3rd thing I'd love to have seen diffrent is..."losing". Because of the often random power ups, Natsu & co are getting somewhat "unbeatable"

I'm sure some or many like this but I prefer characters that achieve something because they worked for it ! They win, sometimes lose, train/work hard and overcome an earlier obstacle. Again, just my opinion.



100% agree on this one. This is why I was obsessed with Sting, I really hoped for him to be the avatar of what you are saying. But you know Hiro has pretty much made it clear that it is his personal decision to make the good guys always make it through. I understand your demands but you should light up to enjoy the manga more cuz Mashima has promised an entirely different thing than what we demand.



SD_CV said:


A 4th thing i dislike, and this is realy a shame, is that this manga is getting predictable....not good...



Way not true. Are you refering to the fact that Natsu would beat the two DSs?

Or to the fact that the final battle will be Natsu VS Zeref. If you put your mind into it then you can pretty much make calls for the next 2 chapters for the majority of Shounen. And for the record:



Raven Tail - Lumen Etoile, Zeref's Situation, Dragons and the Dragon fest, Acnologia's reason to attack FT, Tartaros, Magic Council, 100 year quest and Ecliplse Plan. If it is so predicatable as you say please give me the details that concern the above.



SD_CV said:


I'd also like seeing more action NOT done by Natsu, Erza or Gajeel. It would be nice if the other characters got a bit more attention (and win without getting help from Natsu xP *cough* Lucy *cough*).





There are a lot of secondary characters (Cana/Gildarts/Mira/Elfman/Raijinshuu) and I think that Mashima is giving everyone enough screen time every now and then. But I must also say that the fans are pretty unreasonable in this matter as I have seen people ask for Reedus and the dancing guy to get their fair share of attention.(really now???)I mean really at some point we have to realise that even though it's called Fairy tail it's not the whole guild that's the protagonist

Seriously, how can people call Sting and Rogue's paltry attempt at a power up, Dragon Force? I mean look at these.



http://www.mangainn.com/manga/chapter/9035_dragon-force/page_5



http://www.mangainn.com/manga/chapter/8906_alliance-vs-oracion-seis-the-climax/page_8



This is Dragon Force. This would have made Sting and Rogue quake in fear and soil their pants.

I guess by debating about certain parts you don't agree with you brush up more on the material and improve upon your debating skills in the process.

That's Natsu right there!.I don't get why people are saying it's bullshit...ST are just some strong randoms that tried to play with FT.That's what you get when you understimate real Dragon Slayers and beat their friends like it's nothing.Now we will move to more important part in this arc.

ZEREF! :D it's freaking ZEREF.I hope.



5/5 Really good chapter.I liked how Natsu beat the crap out of fake ds'es with smile on his face.

To people who dropped FT after this chapter: thank you, now we will get less whining! :3