Aeterna said:
Still, I was only pointing out the "this chapter justifies Kaname's actions" bit because of that seemingly strict division between the "them v.s. us". That whole, big group of nobles who have no good intentions for Kaname and Yuuki make it seem like we should like them due to sympathy. I don't exactly find this to be the greatest method of trying to get people to like certain characters. Sure, it can help their cause, but in the end, I'd rather see good character development and such. For example, I don't like the way in which Yuuki's character has developed since the end of the Ridou arc, and playing up my sympathy doesn't change that view that I have of her and, actually, only served to annoy me (hence, the reason why this aspect of the chapter I felt was poorly done).
MallyMalMal said:
Hell yeah! I used to like Yuuki a lot but meh, she's just straight up annoying now. She's basically Kaname's obedient little bitch. Although, I still hope she realizes Kaname's a douche by the end of the manga and get back with Zero. I wouldn't mind the whole ZeroxYori pairing though either.
I'm not sure what you mean but I do agree with you that Yuki needs to change. Yuki has always been completely useless. Even from the very start when she got into a confrontation with Aido trying to protect a couple of students. Instead of whacking him with her electrostaff or at least kicking him she just gives up without a fight and lets him bite her until Zero shows up and saves her. Even with Zero she rarely ever made even a snarky comment when he acted like a complete jerk to her. Her helplessness even reached an absurd level when she couldn't even ask Kaname a question much less get him to answer without Zero's help.
At least now that she's acknowledged how pathetic she acts maybe she can change something. That's what I was hoping becoming a vampire and no longer being kept in the dark would do to her when she got a gigantic scythe and weird vampire superpowers. But it appears she is surpressing her inner vampire so she's still just as wimpy as before.
ah_18 said:
One more note to DrHouse,'s post -haha, it would take an essential plot ingredient if there wasn't this love triangle anymore. And from greatest love comes greatest hate (like in Skip Beat! xD) so truth is, although Zero said he'd kill her, it doesn't make the love die.
Helpless Yuki is one reason I want the love triangle plot device to go away. Both her having to be rescued every time and her pining for the person it looks like she can't have are getting old. I'm convince that YoriXZero is the best solution to this problem and that once Zero is firmly beyond her reach Yuki will have no problems embracing her inner vampire so that finally she can become at least competent. Then Yuki could become an active player in vampire politics rather than just doing what Kaname tells her to do. Besides Zero can still hate her even after she's given up on him because for Zero the love has almost completely turned into hate anyway.
Yori now is also a lot like prevampire Yuki too so they'd basically be like a Zeki if Kaname had just left Yuki alone. That way both Yume and Zeki fans win.
