Hayate no Gotoku! Chapter 568 (Final Chapter) Discussion

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Hirugiku said:
The most interesting part of the finale was Hata's afterthoughts. How he thought he didn't think it would last that long and he thought it would take at most 10 months (Wow i didn't know that) And that ending was actually what he wanted to do from the start.



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I see this as a critical component about why the ending was unsatisfying. If the story had only gone for 10 months and didn't have the build up of extra characters, more plot points, more development then his ending would have been fine. The fact that he stuck with his original ending ideal after everything changed is weak writing and lazy. You might say that it was a long running series and it would be unreasonable to expect have him adjust the ending for the added material. I'd counter that by telling how Rowling had the last Chapter of the final book planned out when she was writing the second book. In simple terms you have an idea of what you want to happen and where you want to go but if things change than you have to adapt with them rather than sticking to an ending that should have been obviously inadequate for the scope of the series. There was very little resolution and it felt like putting a bandaid over a bullet wound.



@Shrimperor Pretty much everything you said and then some. The end of the World Arc was the story at its finest with all the details planned out, great characters, heartwarming/breaking moments, and a concise resolution while allowing the story to be continued. It was what I expected of the finale and instead we got this ending so lazy it feels like a sloth wrote it

 
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                        We got a two year timeskip. Hayate disappeared two years. Nagi is working at the apartment complex her chest grew a little bit. Bigger than Hinagiku at least.

Nagi has grown a bit like mature and independent.

It ends at the same spot Hayate and Nagi met.




Nagi won in the end

 
  • #28
Hah fuck this manga trope where its 97% of the Protagonist would fall for the obviously main heroine.

Even though Nagi x Hayate absolutely makes no sense and was forced in the end but whatever.

I feel bad for Athena. She deserved it after all the shit she's been through.
 
  • #29
A pretty pathetic ending in my book, but fully expected. It was crystal clear after the movies that he'd rather force through his Nagi conclusion than heed the fan wishes.



When I remember the emotional high of the show (conclusion to the Greece arc), this finish was barely a whimper. Not only did Hina - who was by far the character I felt most empathy with and who deserved any kind of reward for her constant selfless support for Hayate - get completely shut out, she even got a rejection off-screen. What the hell, Hata?



Maria's character was twisted even more. Was there any point to her leaving _like this_? Why would she?



It's not uncommon that long-running shows eventually collapse under the myriads of story threads that end unanswered, but this was a particularly poor effort. Just showing characters in their standard role (Hina - fighting, Isumi - magic, etc) in encore fashion does not create closure. What we want to see is how their fundamental issues are resolved. This is where the story failed.



And so, as a Hina fan, I vastly prefered her tragic loss at the end of the Royal Garden arc ("A hero doesn't show the tears beneath her mask") to this unserious half-assed flip-off in the final chapter. And with many other characters it's the same.



Sorry, Hata. You had more than enough time. Epic fail.
 
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Not 100% satisfied with the ending, a bit too rushed. I was expecting a big boss fight, we had Hinagiku vs Himekawa but it's not enough for me.

About the main couple...I was rooting for Athena but the moment she let go Hayate at the end of her arc I knew she had no chance. The main problem is the total lack of development betwenn hayate and Nagi until the very last chapters. He had feelings for other girls and only viewed her as a child (and a benefactor) and suddenly it turns out he loves her. I know it's typical in manga that the main character doesn't recognize his own feelings until someone makes him notice, but usually there are hints for the readers, and I don't consider Hayate'd devotion as a butler a valid hint of romantic affection. Still, I'm happy that he ended up with someone instead of remaining alone or continuing to be a butler, and at least he started dating Nagi after the time skip so I could assume he had time to sort his feelings.

In the end I loved this manga very much, the ending was not perfect but it's only a small flaw in a very good series.
 
  • #31
blonde + tsundere = 100% win rate xD

tsundere fans are really lucky
 
  • #32
Nagi got some boobs. Such development.



Meanwhile Hinagiku will remain flat, in which no development at all... oh wait what a coincidence, her character doesn't have any development too, same as her boobs. (Okay maybe a little but it's way goddamn too late)



I wish I can see more Hayate and Nagi's "real deal" romance though...



Although, MAL says it has 570 chapters yet it ends at 568. So, will there be 2 more chapters?
 
  • #33
Mentar said:




It's not uncommon that long-running shows eventually collapse under the myriads of story threads that end unanswered, but this was a particularly poor effort. Just showing characters in their standard role (Hina - fighting, Isumi - magic, etc) in encore fashion does not create closure. What we want to see is how their fundamental issues are resolved. This is where the story failed.







The best thing is even Hata-sensei poked fun at this himself in the chapter about "gathering plot dust" few years back and despite being aware of it fell for the same trap. I suppose this is an inherent flaw/trap of the long-running serialization, you never now how much you have to stretch the story or how quickly you will have to end it if the sales go down.



Mentar said:


And so, as a Hina fan, I vastly prefered her tragic loss at the end of the Royal Garden arc ("A hero doesn't show the tears beneath her mask") to this unserious half-assed flip-off in the final chapter. And with many other characters it's the same.



Sorry, Hata. You had more than enough time. Epic fail.



This. So much this. Hinagiku ended up as an eternal romantic comedy trigger and the biggest tease of series, until the very final chapter. My heart skipped a beat when Hinagiku was shown the first time in the chapter and my heart begun racing when she finally confessed. Hata-sensei totally had me on the hook there, letting me think he will grant Hina's wish and join the Pantheon of very few manga/anime series that did away with the main guy x main girl pairing.



Only to crush all my hopes one final time. I get it that Hata-sensei wanted to push the message of "You can't always have what you want", but he already did that once with A-tan arc as Mentar pointed out, so he should've left it at that instead of continuing to tease the Hina crowd and then wondering why all those people are so dissatisfied how their favourite character of the show was handled.



Then again, it is easy to discard the last few pages and write a slightly different ending in my head, so I'm going to console myself with that... :D



My only other disappointment was that we never got to know who Maria really was. Her mysterious appearance and then disappearance was left unexplained. However all in all I've seen much worse endings to long running series, especially one very recent (we all know which one...), and Hayate no Gotoku still remains one of my favourite series of all time. Thank you very much Hata-sensei, I could've never imagined that a seemingly simple gag manga could have so many fantastic story arcs.



It was a great ride and... another one bites the dust.
 
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