Tsukihime Chapter 74 Discussion

Does the part where Shiki goes to free Arcueid actually happen in any of the visual novel endings?

FullmetalRaikou said:
Okay, so to start off I really liked this series as a whole I give it a 9/10 probably the best 'romance' manga I've read. I haven't ever read the Visual Novels so I don't know if the manga is a better adaptation of the novels.



Now about the ending, first let me say that I like this 'nicer' ending where they live happily ever after. Never been a fan of highly depressing love stories 'ala Romeo & Juliet.' That said I don't quite get this ending, maybe I'm just dumb or need to re-read the last two chapters. I'm confused on how this plays out.



From what I gathered Arcueid survived her fight with Roa but put herself back into deep sleep in order to suppress her vampiric urges. The only difference between this sleep and her previous slumbers was the fact that now she had all the pleasant memories of what it was like to feel alive. Thanks to Shiki she no longer feels lonely and has in a way been given a reason to live, besides just being a weapon that hunts vampires.



Now Shiki on the other hand is seen talking to the Magi, who encouraged him to live on as a child. She hints at his body deteriorating and the whole 'you can never find happines' thing. So from what I gathered, he has cheated death far too many times and his lifespan is ending.



This is the part that really confuses me the whole scene where Shiki, with the help of Ciel, finds Arcueid and breaks her out of sleep. Then it goes back to Shiki wearing a blindfold and walking off. So was Shiki coming to the rescue all a dream by Arcueid, did Shiki end up dying towards the end, or did he become something like Ciel. Where his body is frozen in time, tied to the fate of that which killed him. That also leads me to wonder, how is Ciel still alive? I mean didn't they say that she and Roa where one in the same. That she shared the same soul and therefore was tied to his fate. That the world could not let her be killed because it would cause a contradiction. So does that mean that Roa is actually still alive somehow. Or was the essence that Roa took from Arcueid which gave him immortality somehow melded with his Soul. Which somehow links Arcueid to Ciel's immortality since part of her was part of Roa.



Okay.....I'm going to stop here because I feel like I'm entering an endless loop of questions. So, anyone here that is a Tsukihime fanatic can help me out. Because I'm pretty darn confused with how this manga ended.​Ciel back to normal human and cannot use "Roa knowlage" For Shiki i think i just dream or something like that, Because in Talk (possible for Tsukihime 2) Shiki go to ainnash to freeze Arcueid Vampiric impulse

Quite good, but manga can only do so much. A good adaptation would have been a much better first experience. Arcueid was adorable though and Shiki was a competent protagonist. 8/10.



My main gripes would be the story is too minimalistic and short, it could be further expanded and developed and not enough attention on the maids.

Pirating_Ninja said:
Wow ... I completely forgot that Arcueid was still on Earth, IE still able to be reached by Shiki ... I am actually very happy w/ this ending ... I thought after the last chapter it would do that whole "I loved and lost but am better for the experience" bull shit but ... I was pleasantly surprised. I do very much like this ending even if it isn't the original ending or just an add-on,.

The author did an interesting thing here, in the original it is up to player choice whether Arcueid returns to her castle or remains with Shiki but since those are mutually exclusive endings the adaptation can only pick one (and adaptations usually go for the bittersweet ones since they have stronger impact), yet in here we somehow got both and I like it :)

GakutoDeathGlare said:
Quite good, but manga can only do so much. A good adaptation would have been a much better first experience. Arcueid was adorable though and Shiki was a competent protagonist. 8/10.



My main gripes would be the story is too minimalistic and short, it could be further expanded and developed and not enough attention on the maids.Sadly, you can only do so much considering each female character (except Satuki) only really gets a major focus on in their specific routes from those games - a lot of the stuff with Ciel and some of the stuff with Akiha were lifted out of their routes for example. Sadly, the maid routes are so incompatible with Arcueid's that all that was carried over into here was the diary and one sentence alluding to Kohaku's backstory

Can someone quickly explain this ending?



Surely Arcueid was not actually alive when Shiki came to rescue her out of that castle? Were all these pages simply Shiki's imaginations before he died? Also,  did Arcueid really die in the last battle?



Thanks!

Masterpiece!<3

Varete7 said:
Zeebrah1337 said:


Hopefully after the Heavens Feel Movies.

I think after Fate/Extra, Fate/Hollow Ataraxia, Fate/Strange Fake, Fate/Grand Order...

Kinoko Nasu forgot Tsukihime

And Takeuchi want only draw Saber



T_T

It's still pretty hazy, yet as of now TM is planning to give Ufotable an opportunity to adapt "Hollow Ataraxia" after "Heaven's Feel III" movie comes out.



I mean, Fate/GO provides TM with hella cash annually so "maybe" they'll return to some older planned projects, such as "Tsukihime" remake in the future...



Oh boy, I too love "what if's".