Pluto Chapter 65 Discussion

ngl it was refreshing getting to see a decent ending from this author, but at the same time this series felt a bit rushed towards the end. And that final scene at the end left me scratching my head abit, but i think it was still a better conclusion than whatever monster was.

Is it really the end??

Of the three Urasawa manga I've read, this one places at the very bottom. Like what was mentioned above, the ending was very anticlamatic--though that can be said for Monster and 20CB as well. Come to think of it, it also is very similar to those two since the plot of Pluto also lost some significant steam as it approached the ending. 7/10 seems generous enough.......

People can say what they like, for me this was better than 20th Century Boys, Urasawa's best piece of work.

amazing read, naoki urasawa never dissapoints

sharp7j said:
To all you people saying their were too many loose ends let me unloose them for you:



gesicht  child: He finds a child in a junk yard. Raises it and loves it. Until the brother of that guy who trys to kill him kidnaps the child. The child is killed and mutilated by that guy. Gesicht gets extremely angry and kills the guy. The government tries to hide it by erasing gesicht and his wife's memories.



Brau- it is implied a couple times in the series that brau murdered probably in very similar circumstances as gesicht. They called him an  "executioner" which is similar to what gesicht did, in that he executed someone who DESERVED to be killed. This is further illustrated by them saying multiple times in the series that "gesicht is the same as brau".

Also in his final meeting with atom a few things can be learned.

1. its very VERY likely that brau has some sensing abilities along the lines of the Uran. This is how he seems to know whats going on all the time. And how he sensed atom's "heart" at the end. They also mention all advanced robots can sort of sense each other.

2. it is likely he could have escaped at any time. The author plays a trick on us  every time we see brau. He is seen as hyper frail with a weak skinny arm. But in the encounter with atom you learn through perspective that his weak skinny arm is actually EXTREMELY LONG and retractable! This along with the last scene to me implies that brau could have likely used this arm to escape AT ANY TIME. This is especially likely since he escaped without atom's help and he is seen THROWING the javelin that impaled him with this extending arm in the last chapter. He likely stayed there because he wanted to and possibly to avoid being chased. http://view.thespectrum.net/manga/Pluto/Volume%2008/pluto_v08_079.JPG

Has the creepy super long arm picture.

3. It might have been atom who captured (and kept brau alive) since he keeps called atom "an old friend" and seems to respect and owe atom a favor.



Brau also didn't likely KILL the evil teddy robot but simply impaled him with the stunning javelin. He also although seeming injured was probably very capable of fighting and being mobile because that extending arm, he also might have had some kind of flight ability that we didn't see or stole a flying car and other weaponry to assault the united states computer. I think its just heavily implied that brau was not as injured as he was leading on. Lastly, they very briefly mention robot stealth abilities so maybe brau has some.



Teddy roosevelt AI - to those that were saying he wasn't developed enough, he was developed plenty. He was a robot who was trying to manipulate the world into destroying the other mega-robots. He did this likely by starting the entire persian war conflict by forcing the united states to attack persia. This caused persia to try and end the world and caused persia to try and kill the other super robots. With the other super robots gone, and goji alive, there would be nothing stopping goji from destroying the world. But his plan failed when atom was revived and freed pluto from the control of goji (by pluto removing the horns). Anyway, he really didn't need to be fleshed out as he was the "evil super robot" role which is very simple.



Pluto - was likely controlled by the horns. Every time one of them is destroyed he starts to talk a lot more, and when both are destroyed by atom at the end he becomes completely in control of himself. Heracles also tried very hard to destroy the horns and said they were the key.





So ya I thought the series ended decently and was very sad and tear jerky throughout. 9.3/10. More brau would have been nice but wasn't needed.





Brau having all those capabilities out of nowhere is an asspull, Pluto being controlled by the horns doesn't make sense, and Roosevelt's plan predicts something absurd, which would be that someone in Persia would launch an attack to conveniently kill humanity but keep robots alive, like he wanted. How the fuck would he predict that would be the outcome?



All in all, 8/10.

The end with the teddy bear what?

Like most people, I read Monster, then 20th CB, then Pluto.  After the first 2 I was really looking for a shorter series with the same style of storyline and themes.  Pluto fulfilled most of my hopes, however I have the same problem with most, as to the character of the teddy bear.  To me, he/she/it was one of the more intriguing and interesting characters, and the fact that the bear's story is non-existant was a big let down.  I also thought it was stupid to show Gesicht's child in the last chapter, without explaining what happened to him.  What's the point of showing him at all?