Pluto Chapter 65 Discussion

  • #114
randomvoice said:




While I would have liked more closure regarding 'Thracia' and the general political aftermath as well, I don't think the ending was *that* open-ended or unsatisfying.



I agree. I liked the ending.... the last page left you wide-eyed with your mouth open. anytime a manga can do that to me I give it high marks. I would have liked more of Dr. Roosevelt though, but I also feel that adding too much of him to the plot, on top of everything else, would've taken away from the "pluto vs atom" plot which is essentially what this manga is about. then people would be complaining that too much was added >_<



and somone said in an eariler post that this manga was "anti-american". please. the political sub-plot was clearly a satire on the US/Irag war. despite how you may feel about the war, most people around the world dont agree with it. but Darius XIV wasnt portrayed like a good guy either.
 
  • #115
To all you people saying their were too many loose ends let me unloose them for you:



gesicht  child: He finds a child in a junk yard. Raises it and loves it. Until the brother of that guy who trys to kill him kidnaps the child. The child is killed and mutilated by that guy. Gesicht gets extremely angry and kills the guy. The government tries to hide it by erasing gesicht and his wife's memories.



Brau- it is implied a couple times in the series that brau murdered probably in very similar circumstances as gesicht. They called him an  "executioner" which is similar to what gesicht did, in that he executed someone who DESERVED to be killed. This is further illustrated by them saying multiple times in the series that "gesicht is the same as brau".

Also in his final meeting with atom a few things can be learned.

1. its very VERY likely that brau has some sensing abilities along the lines of the Uran. This is how he seems to know whats going on all the time. And how he sensed atom's "heart" at the end. They also mention all advanced robots can sort of sense each other.

2. it is likely he could have escaped at any time. The author plays a trick on us  every time we see brau. He is seen as hyper frail with a weak skinny arm. But in the encounter with atom you learn through perspective that his weak skinny arm is actually EXTREMELY LONG and retractable! This along with the last scene to me implies that brau could have likely used this arm to escape AT ANY TIME. This is especially likely since he escaped without atom's help and he is seen THROWING the javelin that impaled him with this extending arm in the last chapter. He likely stayed there because he wanted to and possibly to avoid being chased. http://view.thespectrum.net/manga/Pluto/Volume%2008/pluto_v08_079.JPG

Has the creepy super long arm picture.

3. It might have been atom who captured (and kept brau alive) since he keeps called atom "an old friend" and seems to respect and owe atom a favor.



Brau also didn't likely KILL the evil teddy robot but simply impaled him with the stunning javelin. He also although seeming injured was probably very capable of fighting and being mobile because that extending arm, he also might have had some kind of flight ability that we didn't see or stole a flying car and other weaponry to assault the united states computer. I think its just heavily implied that brau was not as injured as he was leading on. Lastly, they very briefly mention robot stealth abilities so maybe brau has some.



Teddy roosevelt AI - to those that were saying he wasn't developed enough, he was developed plenty. He was a robot who was trying to manipulate the world into destroying the other mega-robots. He did this likely by starting the entire persian war conflict by forcing the united states to attack persia. This caused persia to try and end the world and caused persia to try and kill the other super robots. With the other super robots gone, and goji alive, there would be nothing stopping goji from destroying the world. But his plan failed when atom was revived and freed pluto from the control of goji (by pluto removing the horns). Anyway, he really didn't need to be fleshed out as he was the "evil super robot" role which is very simple.



Pluto - was likely controlled by the horns. Every time one of them is destroyed he starts to talk a lot more, and when both are destroyed by atom at the end he becomes completely in control of himself. Heracles also tried very hard to destroy the horns and said they were the key.





So ya I thought the series ended decently and was very sad and tear jerky throughout. 9.3/10. More brau would have been nice but wasn't needed.
 
  • #116
Brau-1589 became Bro-1589. I still miss Gesicht.
 
  • #117
It was a good read.



I didn't like the ending that much. It would have been better to keep it in smaller scale. I culdn't really feel the tension of the whole earth being destroyed out of nowhere. Could have been made simpler, or at least less dumb (did the anti-proton bomb  atom wrote even have meaning? The prophecy of the witches in the park was real?)



It just felt like a bit of a letdown. All that buildup for Bora and it was a godamned farming robot. Like, what the hell? I expeted to see one badass robot not that... Poor kiddo was traumatized by a farming tool...



I also didnt like how atom stole the show from my man Gesicht. Look, I know Japan loves the little kid, but this was all about Gesicht. His death was well done, but seeing how it was about Atom in the end left a sour taste in my mouth...



And don't get me started on Brau. Just like Bora (an the teddy bear) he was totally ignored. He was IMHO the greatest unknown in the whole manga, but we get nothing on him.
 
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