Banana Fish Chapter 110 Discussion

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  • #10
NinoHaruhara said:
Old_School_Akira said:
NinoHaruhara said:
wow, this manga is amazing, a masterpiece, can't think of any other way to put it. this was the first BL manga I've ever completed and i couldn't have been more glad, if I had space in my favorites i definitely would have added it. can't wait to watch the anime. 11/10 manga.



It's a shoujo manga, not BL  yeah i know, but I’ve seen many people call it a BL manga, so I’m gonna stick to that



A Manga can have a gay relationship without being BL. Those people are wrong.
 
  • #11
I just finished this manga and I feel like there's a big hole in my heart. I've sworn not to be drawn too deep to a story anymore, but damn, I did it again. I've cried many times over anime, manga, movie, or any other stories, but banana fish is the most painful. And I'm going to take it all out here. So this comment is just gonna be some rant.



I'm really mad at how he died. I just don't understand why did he have to die because of Lao OF ALL PEOPLE. He didn't even stab him in his vital organs. He can seek for help or going to the hospital instead going to the library and bleed himself to death (why didn't anyone notice his blood?). It just didn't make any sense after all he has been thru.



It really pains me because I think he had the chance to start his life again. It would be another story if he died in Foxx's hand. I would also be mad but I would accept that more over this ending (it wouldn't be a beautiful and tragic ending tho lol). Or it would also have been better if Lao stabbed him in his vital organs. It would make more sense if he died because there's nothing he could do. BUT THIS? OMG he fking had the chance to live. I don't buy his crap about not wanting to be with Eiji anymore because he's a bad news. Yes, maybe he WAS. But now, everything is over. He's already free. He may be back being a street punk but no one is taking his freedom anymore. So, where's the problem?



I just think he deserves better after all his suffering :(



It's such a perfect and beautiful ending, but I still hate it. Other than that, I really love this manga. I plan to watch the anime after this but I'm not sure if I can go thru the pain again lol
 
  • #12
Yeah, I do have to complain a bit since Banana Fish just ended up being burning and forgotten. A bit of a easy resolution by killing off the antagonists... it went for a feels ending. Which, being technically shoujo, works for me.



I love the relationship between Eiji and Ash. And I love Ash - his broken past, which, surprisingly, continued into the present, and his ultimate ending. I knew he would die. Because this series loves to meet my expectations as a tragedy and kill off the main character... and of course Monster-style since he was killed by practically a nobody.



However, the extras/wrap-up stories were freakin' wonderful. It showed a bit of Ash before he became the superhuman that we all know and love, and brought back Shorter too. The epilogue with Eiji was well done, incorporating a small story of Akira as well, which added that thoughtful touch. Excellent ending.
 
  • #13
i'm about to scream. are you fucking kidding me? that was a real punch to the gut, to put mildly. i've never been more devastated by a manga ending. i saw it coming right from the beginning (i didn't get spoiled or anything either) because characters like Ash never survive



god the saddest part about his death was that all the conflict from his life was finally resolved and he finally had a chance to come to Japan with Eiji and mend his emotional trauma over the years. but nope, he gets killed by a completely irrelevant character because he was so caught up with the letter that Eiji wrote. the author is evil, the ending would have been just as good if she just showed Ash getting on the plane without further explanation. however, i do not think the ending is bad by any means. it's a great ending, but it doesn't make me hate it any less. at the very least, Ash was finally at peace at the moment of his death. i kinda wish Eiji also died then, because seeing Eiji live alone without Ash is so painful to see



poor Eiji though, he knows Ash's death was partly his fault. it couldn't be helped, but still





that Sing growth though, i can't believe he was so tiny and then he grew to be a giant. i assume the person he was talking to on the phone was the young Lee brother, but i could be wrong. i kinda thought they would end up living together, instead of with Eiji



i wish there was more development on Blanca's character. i really really liked him but i feel like more could have been done with him



i loved this manga but i do gotta admit, towards the end, i completely forgot this manga was about the drug Banana Fish. personally, i didn't focus on the whole drug aspect of the manga. i much preferred the complex characters, but it's still odd that the plot was kinda thrown out the window. the last "villain" arc seemed a bit rushed, like the author just wanted to get rid of all the bad guys already and kill off Ash. the Papa Dino death was satisfying though. and i did like the fact that the drugs were just burned away but i feel like it wouldn't be so simple and realistic



interestingly, even though there was 19 volumes, i feel like there could have easily been more. some characters could have had more development (such as Blanca, Nadia, etc) and there could have been more plot-related chapters



despite all that, i feel like the issues i had were kind of minor. i'm going to rate it 9/10 instead of 10/10 purely because i'm bitter over Ash's death. i would have only been fine with it if he died along with Eiji. i saw it coming from a mile away but it still sure as hell doesn't make it any less sad







(behold my favorite line from the manga):








 
  • #14
I've been itching to leave a comment on MAL ever since I finished binging the manga in 3 days... my first comment after the forum is finally back :')

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I really enjoyed reading this manga. Enjoyed how much it ripped my heart out. How much pain I suffered with the characters. I love the way not only the characters, but the setting, felt alive. Everything felt so down to earth.



Ash was such a painful character to read about, and while I was annoyed with how much he let Eiji stay around, it made sense...that Eiji was his oasis. Someone who knew nothing of how dark the world could be, knew nothing of violence, but had no fear of Ash, and didn't approach Ash for a selfish or ulterior motive. Someone who simply loved and cared about him, wanting nothing in return. A classic, but well written example of opposites attract. I also love the romantic friendship they had, I don't think you could describe it any other way. It was romantic due to the intimacy, but it was definitely not sexual, as (homosexual) sex had been depicted in a negative light throughout the series. It's an interesting contrast.



The ending was expected, tbh. I knew Ash wouldn't make it out of the story alive. There was no way that'd happen. Even though he was a product of his environment and experiences, a victim from such a young age, he had still done a lot of terrible things. But still, that doesn't mean he deserves a horrible nor painful death. I'm happy for him, that he was able to die smiling. It's also fitting that he was always ready to die, but never in a positive state, but when he wasn't ready to die, he was still able to die with a smile. It's ironic, but so perfect. To top it all off, Ash always goes to the library when he wants to be alone, and he died in the library alone, physically. But metaphorically(?), he was with Eiji, as he was touching Eiji's letter in his last moment. And of course, Eiji himself said that his soul will always be with Ash.






Also damn, that last side story (epilogue) hit me harder than Ash's death. As they say, it's those who're left behind that suffers the most. The effect Ash's death had on both Eiji and Sing, that was hard to go through without crying. Sing really idolized Ash. I wonder what Eiji is to Sing, though. I was surprised that he hugged Eiji and said that he wants Eiji to be happy. My first instinct is that Sing likes Eiji similarly to the relationship between Ash and Eiji...but it's hard to say that would be the case, given that Sing, although close to both, wasn't close to them in that way. So I can only conclude that he cares for Eiji as a family. Which would be great, I'm glad they are close with each other. I know in some stories, it's those who know each other's pasts that hurts them the most, because they want to forget the past. But I think being together is healing as well, they can slowly, but surely, get over the past together, but still know that the person lives within someone else. Idk what I'm even saying anymore, LOL. The last chapter really killed me though. Bawling when Eiji put up Ash's picture by the window, and Sing crying as he looks at the photograph.



While it was an emotional ride, with many of the main characters being well written and complex, their psychology, growth, and relationship dynamics, there could definitely had been improvements. I agree that it's a shame that Nadia was sort of "forgotten" for most of the later parts, but I also understand that it's really difficult to incorporate everyone's story as well as to even give them meaningful panel time without dragging an already long and deep narrative.



Which reminds me, I think that the story could've been shorter. The last two arcs were felt slightly, and I only mean slightly, dragged out. Those were the only parts of the story that I felt a bit tiring to read through. Otherwise, I think the story is rather tight for such a long series. A lot of long-running series get off tangent and have multiple stories going on at the same time (not that it's a bad thing!), so it's quite refreshing to see such a straightforward plot.



Btw, my second favorite character in the series goes to Sing! Love the kid.
 
  • #15
Whoa, what a ride. I honestly don't know what to say and I don't to say much either because everyone else above me already said what I think.



I loved every aspect of this manga and even if - as others said - the plot towards the end started to be weaker. I'm glad all the themes this manga presented were well explored and they didn't serve only as a purpose to add drama and whatsoever because even if I didn't read that much manga, I'm pretty tired of starting to read something 'serious' and then, it just presents that a character got raped and after that they never explore it, nor serves as something to develop that character.



I also love that every character has a complex personality and everyone got their 'moment'. Even though I missed a little bit of Nadia, she appeared a few episodes and didn't do much except... work at the resturant and worry? I feel like she could been better.



I knew Ash would die because I spoiled myself for whatever stupid reason and I still felt sad after reading the last chapter - mostly because of Eiji's letter and what did that mean, than Ash's death (even though I must say I got pretty attached to him, he was a great character with many sides). But then, the chapter that came after that about Eiji and Sing's feelings killed me.



Ash and Eiji's (and well, everyone's else) relationship was so wonderfully portrayed. For a moment, when Ash went out of the library I hoped he would reunite with Eiji and live happy together after that. I mean, after what Ash went through, he finally found someone who loved him for whom he was and not for what they could get of him. He finally started to feel loved genuinely, and love back. The poor boy...



And yes, what Sing said about Ash and Eiji loving each others as lovers do even though their relationship wasn't sexual was beautiful. It's sad that in the end, what killed Ash wasn't all the stuff he was in nor what he went through but his         blindness and love when it comes to Eiji.



 
  • #16
Amazing read!



Despite Ash's somewhat Gary Stu-like characteristics, he's actually an extremely likable character. Same goes for Eiji, Blanca, Sing, and even Yut-Lung (to a lesser extent). None of the characters seemed extraordinarily unique or special, but they sure did convey every bit of emotion the author probably intended.



The story, too, was really thrilling. Left me craving for more. It's true, though, that Banana Fish was somewhat ignored in the end.



And those last 3 volumes were really painful to read. It's fascinating how invested readers can get while reading a piece of work—this applies to the whole manga, of course, and not just the last three volumes.
 
  • #17
I honestly feel like someone punched me in the heart. I knew Ash was going to die but my god the ending made me so S A D
 
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