xxxHOLiC Chapter 170 Discussion

bialovesanime said:
well, at least now we know that CSS Sakura and Shaoran aren´t dead!

indeed.

and now, what does "the butterfly's dream" mean?

Geez, Haruka talks in even more cryptic metaphors than Yuuko...which is saying a lot.

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I researched on the Butterfly's dream, and this is what I found:




The Chinese philosophy of Taoism plays an important role in understanding Chuang Tzu's parable "The Butterfly's Dream." The story begins when a philosopher dreams he is a butterfly. His is disoriented by this transformation until other butterflies welcome him into their group and he begins to behave as the other butterflies in accordance to his appearance. He takes in their sensual pleasures and carefree way of life. He comes to enjoy his life as a butterfly until he wakes from his dream and is startled by reality. But, upon reflection, he realizes that his waking life could be for others a butterfly's dream.



that's the definition, and the actual text:



Zhuangzi - [Chuang Tze]



One day about sunset, Zhuangzi dozed off and dreamed that he turned into a butterfly.



He flapped his wings and sure enough he was a butterfly...



What a joyful feeling as he fluttered about, he completely forgot that he was Zhuangzi.



Soon though, he realized that that proud butterfly was really Zhuangzi who dreamed he was a butterfly, or was it a butterfly who dreamed he was Zhuangzi!



Maybe Zhuangzi was the butterfly, and maybe the butterfly was Zhungzi?

you're right blopa... CLAMP don't have the heart to kill off just like that their fave characters hahahaha...



Where are CSS' S+S... Well I suppose they are in the dark side of the world trying to help !RSyao and Watanuki, still I feel they passed into a better life...



Oh man this chappie felt like a subliminal message to us fans to say, CLAMP's finale is near... You just gotta save your mind for the last blow hahahaha... dang I'm anxious to see the end to TRC and xXxHolic, both great series...



Butterfly's Dream... Hitsuzen... Go Yuuko-chan and blow our minds :D



Signs,

Green

it was a little confusing but at least we know Sakura and Shaoran from CCSaren't dead

Well, that those two are alive is to be expected. After all, Sakura and Syaoran are like the pet characters of Clamp and also  
at the end of CCS Sakura ends up being more powerfull than Clow Reed himself; so it's not likely for Fei Wong, who praises Clow as an emminence, to be able to kill them [/spoiler

huzzah! it's almost over!!!!

I again confirm that XXXholic is hard to follow if you haven't read it for a while

It was nice knowing they're alive =)

That 'butterfly's dream' is what's being confusing..  But seems like it's ending, so... Let's see what CLAMP have been thinking...

just awesome!!

now im 100% sure that Kinomoto-chan and lee-kun are alive



i need know what smoke the CLAMP grils

Oh, God, this chapter was awesome. I'm so glad Sakura and Syaoran are alive...



I loved art and panel position in this chapter, especially while Yuuko and Haruka were talking.

Oh man, this is incredible.

One of the best chapters we've had in a long time. What an awesome revelation and I'll admit I wasn't expecting that. Can't wait to see those two.



Anyone have anymore info on Haruka's butterfly analogy?