Naruto Chapter 679 Discussion

Ryukatsuka said:
DrGeroCreation said:

Ryukatsuka said:
DrGeroCreation said:
Zeus97 said:
DrGeroCreation said:
Absolutely terrible chapter. This chapter completely ruins Madara as a villain because it makes him nothing but a pawn that was manipulated just like Obito. White zetsus earlier in the series were said to be imperfect clones of the first hokage but now all of a sudden they are related to the Infinite Tsukuyomi. This reveal makes it predictable how the fight will end. Sasuke and Naruto will most likely fuse together and become the sage of the 6 paths the same way Madara and Black Zetsu fused to become Kaguya and he will take her down.



Maybe that is all he was. A pawn, but an incredible one at that.



It was said before that those clones were made from Hashirama cells but who knows if it was a lie. We don't know for certain if it's the truth. Maybe all this time they were somehow related to the infinite tsukuyomi. Maybe in future chapters we get further explanations. The manga is coming to its end, and I don't think Kishi wants his manga to end with plot holes. lol I really hope so. He really needs to fully explain everything in the coming chapters because the reveal made no kind of sense. The white zetsus being imperfect clones of Hashirama made perfect sense considering they are plant like, when Orochimaru took over one of the white zetsus 2nd hokage if I remember correctly could sense that Orochimaru was made up of  the 1st hokage's cells and  Tobi implied that first Hokage cells were used to create the zetsu army considering he showed Kabuto the cultivation of Hashirama's cells which looks like a humanoid version of him connected to the tree. White zetsus being connected to the infinite tsukuyomi to me makes no sense at all.



You're forgetting the fact that Hashirama's power and cells originated from the God-tree. He is a descendent of Hagoromo, who is the son of Kaguya, who in turn ate the Chakra fruit from the Shinju. Furthermore, he is also one of the reincarnations Ashura's will transmigrated to overtime. Added to the fact that the Shinju as well as the Infinite Tsukuyomi are pretty much linked, it makes perfect sense. It's quite obvious that the Zetsu predated both Madara and Hashirama. Obito...or Madara or whoever created them just used a shortcut by taking advantage of Hashirama's mokuton abilities and harvesting them like that. Or else they would have had to wait until they pulled of the genjutsu to use the Zetsu. All in all, it makes perfect sense. All ninjas would have gotten their power from the God tree. If humans can be turned into white zetsus then why didn't Madara turn the ninja alliance (Naruto and Sasuke included)into white zetsus so as to allow the plan to go smoothly without interruption?



Naruto and Sasuke aren't under the Mugen Tsukuyomi, so how would he be able to? Also, something tells me Madara was just winging it when he started things up, but Kaguya actually seems to be proficient in controlling people through the jutsu. I'm talking about before he launched mugen tsukuyomi. Also concerning your previous point about  1st hokage being Ashura's reincarnation. Naruto is also Ashura's reincarnation so why didn't  Tobi ever think about using Naruto's cells to create more zetsus?

This was awesome! I dnt care if pple hated it or not!



Having a hot MILF as the final villian makes it all better!

Varak-blackhand said:
Aegaeon said:
Damn it Madara hasn't even done anything yet other than his Limbos.

Well Kaguya seems like a good character, she's practically less talk more action.



Indeed, Talk-no-Jutsu will have no chance of working against her



I wouldnt be so sure if I were you, talk no jutsu is still the ultimate trump card

i knew this would happen the second i saw the 6 path hermit in the previous chapters, kichi is completly distroying this series with his shity writing, after the 5 kage sumit arc it has been downhill for naruto, asspull power ups are THE WROSE kind of plot support, souls transmigrating through time??!! seriously !!! ... so kichi is basicly telling the readers that the naruto and sasuke they all know and loveare not actualy them  but somme one else???!! way to kill several years of character devellopement -_-  and now the 6 path hermit's mother is steping up-effectivly killing the series prim antagonist- with no established reason for her to even show up ....i know this is shonnen but comme onn!!! it's freeking naruto, it should be better then this....

the uchiha delema/PAIN is what made this series in my opinion and with that gonn there is nothing else to lean on, so i hardly doubt kichi can recover from this mess .... but i'l just wait and see what kichi has instored for the raging fans

I had a feeling Kaguya would show up.

Wow. She even has a byakugan.

I highly doubt Madara is gone though. He must have merged with Kaguya somehow.

Hamura. Hagoromo's brother. Sounds cool.



Oh and White Zetsu is made from people who were under the Infinite Tsukuyomi.



I'm beginning to love Kaguya. xD

The beginning of the end... what a long road it took

veguke said:
Dead characters coming back to life through illogical reasons - that's the ish i dont like. What in the world was the edo tensei so developed for if certain characters can come back to life by virtue of their chakra possessing people. Jeez, Orochimaru, here I thought you were intelligent! Anyway, Kaguya seems to be an awesome villain potentially, but darn it she should have had her own arc after Madara was defeated, with a proper introduction and forshadowing and not a few chapters worth of scary faces in the background (and random information dumps scattered here and there).



With that said, it was cool when Kaguya seemed to be talking about not wanting to fight ... then in the next panel she showed she's out for destruction. Otherwise, I don't know anymore. You could fit the Juubi inside some of these plot holes.



Kaguya was never dead. Nor was it stated that she was. She was obviously the ten tails this whole time. The thing just turn into her this chapter for christ's sake.



WAD1992 said:
i knew this would happen the second i saw the 6 path hermit in the previous chapters, kichi is completly distroying this series with his shity writing, after the 5 kage sumit arc it has been downhill for naruto, asspull power ups are THE WROSE kind of plot support, souls transmigrating through time??!! seriously !!! ... so kichi is basicly telling the readers that the naruto and sasuke they all know and loveare not actualy them  but somme one else???!! way to kill several years of character devellopement -_-  and now the 6 path hermit's mother is steping up-effectivly killing the series prim antagonist- with no established reason for her to even show up ....i know this is shonnen but comme onn!!! it's freeking naruto, it should be better then this....

the uchiha delema/PAIN is what made this series in my opinion and with that gonn there is nothing else to lean on, so i hardly doubt kichi can recover from this mess .... but i'l just wait and see what kichi has instored for the raging fans



Ass up powerups? Its been forshadowed that Naruto had the sage's power since he fought the Kyuubi.

chiricis said:
Kaguya mentioned Itachi... wonder why she knows him ?



Zetsu actually said this, if you check a few slides earlier than this, he mentions kaguya in 3rd person... meaning he wasn't kaguya yet.