Bleach Chapter 659 Discussion

RayAdha said:
Hitsugaya seems awfully calm for someone who is fighting much stronger opponent. I doubt he could beat Gerard as he is now without any asspulls or assistances.



Finally those two met again, I need to see Ishida's Sternritter power.....Vollstandigg plz.



Well al the thrill that the last page of last chapter had created got all melted away .

Now the title wasn't much of convincing and some strolling with known facts .



Ishida won't show any sternritter power . Yoruichi's entry was better. Histugaya didn't stand up to expectations .

I get the feeling that this was the whole idea with captain shota; they billed him as this amazing genius who rose so far, so fast and gained a bankai in such a short amount of time, so everybody assumed he had this vast potential. That he would one day become something even greater.



But every fight he hits the wall, showing that you can have all the supposed potential in the world, but at the end of the day it doesn't mean a damn thing if you don't do anything serious with it between fights. He's sort of like Frieza in a sense, where he was very talented without really trying, all of this power and ability came so easily to the point where he didn't feel the need to improve that much. But when it came time to do so, he rushed and half assed it, only to be shown that again, it doesn't matter how much potential you have doesn't mean a damn thing if you don't do anything serious with it.



We see that with his bankai, where it was so incomplete it had a a built in time limit, yet he used it anyway, and when he was beaten he did the bare minimum to improve it to some form of completeness, only to be beaten again. He coasts on the bare minimum of improvement for as long as possible, and when he gets beaten he does the least amount of training until he feels like he can just go with it, then gets beaten again.

k11chi said:
grandy_UiD said:
Okay, so now we also ignore Hitsugaya's fight and enter a THIRD stage at the same time?



The good thing is, that this is a confrontation that might actually be interesting and involves important characters.

Hitsugayas fight is skippable though. He always gets wrecked by the enemy and barely stands a chance even. Maybe with that ultimate attack he used against Halibel he'll do something, until Thor just goes holy form.



But then what's the point of starting that fight in the first place?

Seriously Kubo STOP Hitsugaya. We don't need him again and again. It's not a shitty character but there are a lot of other people we need to see... Urahara, Byakuya, Shinji, Ukitake, Grimmjow even Love, Hisagi's Bankai and gosh TESSAI...

Now I'd like to see a combo Hitsugaya+Halibel...

Even Iba and Isane's Shikais are more interesting than another version of Hyourinmaru...

Awesome!I hope it will be Ichigo vs Ishida or Ichigo,Ishida vs Haschwalth

Fai said:


> Ichigo Solves all the problems and defeats opponents

"OMG why is it only MC doing everything so boring"

> Ichigo actually takes backseat and the narrative shows other characters as competent and badass"

"OMG why is Ichigo not doing anything?"



You can't win with haters.



Ichigo might be a boring main character that can end every battle in a few pages because he's just that awesome, but without him the pacing in this manga gets even more glacial than usual and people notice that.



Think about him as a full body wax: it's messy and sticky but you won't get anywhere if you remove every strip at the speed of one pube per hour. What you need to do is go with confidence and rip it all at once and bear with the sudden rush of pain.

That was unexpectedly quick seeing thee 2 meet, now itll prolly go back to Hitsugaya and ignore Ishida and Ichigo for the next 6 weeks though lol

Okay, so now we also ignore Hitsugaya's fight and enter a THIRD stage at the same time?



The good thing is, that this is a confrontation that might actually be interesting and involves important characters.