Bleach Chapter 530 Discussion

OriginGenesis said:
Loved this part fufufufu.






Lol, me too.

antonnn said:
That hollow is real interesting. So it's safe to assume that's the original form of Ichigo's full hollow transformation. Some part of it must have gone into Masaki's body or something along those lines, then manifested itself in Ichigo when she became pregnant.



Similar thought. But one thing is missing - what is the relagionship between Ichigo & Ishin.

He must have some connections...maybe same as Hollow's part (may) flow to Ichigo, the same was with Ishin's reiatsu. That made him hybrid: hollow(vasto lorde) + shinigami + natural blood way - quincy.

ps. what was the chapter in hueco mondo where someone 'pointed' sword(?) at Urahara?

j0x said:
kizu-kun said:
j0x said:
R0LAN said:


Here comes the countless guesses on how and why that Vasto Lord resembles Ichigo's one.





err its not that hard to guess since the hints are there if you know YuYu Hakusho then you know how gene inheritance or heredity work and sometimes latent abilities only wake up with the right environment condition or the right time as the case for Yusuke on YuYu Hakusho



and read chapter 510 and 514 of bleach, Juha Bach pass down his genes (heredity) to the Kurosaki family generations i bet just like what happen on Yu Yu Hakusho



Ichigo (just like the abilities of the two Juha Bach brothers) absorbs/copied the memories and abilities of the Vasto Lorde that Masaki might defeat next chapter and as well as the various fullbring and shinigami blah blah, Ichigo is a copying and absorbing monster an evolution of the two Juha Bach from what im guessing from the hints of chapter 510 and 514You're still confused about Juha Bachs powers. He CANNOT copy peoples abilities. The quicies that can are named Royd Lloyd and Lloyd Lloyd. They were the twins. Lloyd Lloyd was one of the three killed by kenpachi and Royd Llody COPYED JUHABACH'S APPERANCE in order to trick yamamoto. Royd was the one who took out kenpachi and fought yamamoto, and when he was defeated the real Juhabach Showed up to steal the head captain's bankai. They are two different people....http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Royd_Lloyd



im not confuse i know that Royd and Loyd are 2 different people thats why i said 2 different Juha Bachthere's only one Juha Bach. The twins work for him. And besides that ichigo is not absorbing all of these powers. We already know he got them by learning them along the way or by being born with them. He got his reaper powers from rukia/ Isshin, his quicy power from his mother, Full Bring was taught to him by Ginjou, and his hollow powers come from the training he did with Urahara to get his powers back(and now possibly Aizen's experiment).

Hmm, I wonder if- (speculative)


"Ichigo"/(Hollow Ichigo)



-could have been the one to kill Masaki.



That'd be pretty dark and doesn't give Ichigo someone he can conveniently beat up to avenge her though. Unless it does.



It would explain a lot though.

k11chi said:
Ok I think the arc is long enough so I can say KUBO TITE GOD DAMN THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR! BLEACH IS FREAKING DECENT, GOOD READ NOW, SCORE 6->9



Fuck I just... Every week for 6 months already been waiting and waiting and waiting for new chapters, funny stuff how the quality just shot up like there's no tomorrow.



This is what Fairy Tail NEEDS.



What Fairy Tail needs is to either get cancelled or start killing characters. That has to be one of the most cliched manga's ever written. It had a promising start up till after the arc with Jellal. Now its all about the power of friendship and Fairy Tail iz da best. About the only thing that makes it worth while is the fanservice, gotta hand it to Mashima, he and Kubo know how to draw some sexy females.

I two weeks we will learn how strong the new black VL is. Isshin is probably under limiter so its clear that he is gonna get owned. Can Aizen communicate with Isshin and release his limiter?

Masaki comes in to save the day and as She is Quincy she might somehow absorb VL reiatsu.



Maybe She has the power to copy / absorb ability or She would be able to consume that hollow just like Opie ate Allon? If she did that and the Hollow would rebel would then Isshin use FGT on them? I have this idea that Isshin would need to use FGT to weaken Masaki fused with hollow so that Ryuuken can shoot the spot and cut both spiritual energy. Something Isshida did to Chirrucci. This in turn would put the hollow to sleep or seal it and makes Masaki loose all the Quincy powers.That might be the reason why Ichigo hollow form looked similar. Then Urahara comes with umbrella and Is like "I have gigai for you Isshin-san". Blablabla and they run away with Masaki and beat up Ruyuuken is all alone.



Was Ichigo a host to Vasto Lorde Arrancar at this time? Was Zangetsu (affected by Shinigami bloodline) a sword that Hollows make when they become Arrancars?



Is that hollow worth FGT and Quincy ultimate? Is this the time where both of them loose powers or just one?



ITS RAINING. Zangetsu hates Rain. Ichigo mother got killed in a rainy day. Hope that Isshin will put a good fight :D

That vasto lorde at the end of the chapter looks really cool.

j0x said:
-MgZ_ said:
Does this mean that Isshin is Ichigo's father after all?



more revelation needed, lets just wait why Ichigo has same copying/absorbing powers of Juha Bach as well as Juha Bach saying he is Ichigo's father and why Juha Bach resembles old man Zangetsu so much too

I dont think juha bach is ichigo's dad, as mentioned before he looks too much like the shiba relatives rather to be juha bach's son, this was pointed when isshin was revealed to be shiba clan and why ichigo looks so much like kaein, he looks not at all alike juha bach, also isshin used a getsuga tensho way back during the arrancar arc, its not that ichigo can absorb its just that its unlikely to be juha bach's son, and on the point on chapter 514 (i think) where juha bach says "my son born in darkness" means that ichigo has become a awakened quincy that was born in the jail while in the garganta, not his actual son, thats my prediction, but who knows what tite kubo will throw at us, we have yet to see from kubo-sama

Another theory(forgive me if somebody has already said it and I missed it) could be the hollow is Ichigo's actual original form and it didn't so much manifest itself into Ichigo when Masaki got pregnant as much as the hollow(or maybe it's essence or something) was inside her and then by getting pregnant to Isshin it was given a form via Ichigo, since it's not like a human can give birth to a hollow via normal means. That would explain that hollow in Ichigo's dream world(forgot what it's called).



That said, it'd be interesting to look back over what hollow Ichigo has said in conversation to see if he'd given any hints over the course of the series as to Ichigo's origin. Lol if Ichigo is originally a hollow before anything else. Epic.



I really do hope we get to see a good amount of Isshin's powers before he gets beaten. I'd like to hope he won't lose his powers yet, and instead is just defeated by the Hollow and then learns Final Getsuga before having his final battle(at that time).