Bleach Chapter 504 Discussion

  • #75
Yamamoto Genryusai, enough said.  Those flames on the last panel, oh man.



I really liked the back story we got on those two, it made Yama-Ji`s rage and emotional loss that much more intense.



As people have pointed out, the last time Sasakibe used Bankai was 200 years ago, the same time as the Quincy Massacre.  I really look forward to the unveiling of what really happened then, and why.



I`m pretty sure Byakuya is alive now that it`s confirmed that Quincy can`t use bankai to the full extent as Shinigami.



Why can`t Kubo release 30 page chapters like Hiro Mashima, I feel like so much more can be covered weekly.  Or at least fit in more content.  Though I was satisfied with this week, I still want more, a lot more.
 
  • #76
Candor said:
These were plot-holes that were explained in an official character book (an old one), they're written in wikia.bleach.com, here you go (the first paragraph was in the manga, the rest wasn't): While Rukia Kuchiki initially describes Soul Society as something of a paradise, where nine out of ten times it is better than the living world and hunger is never a problem.[2]



Soul Society is far from sublime. In fact, aside from the slowed aging and aforementioned lack of hunger, life there is much like that in the living world.

Soul Society consists of the Rukongai (流魂街, wandering soul city; Viz: Rukon District), where souls live when they arrive in Soul Society, and Seireitei (瀞霊廷, court of pure souls), which is at the center of Soul Society. The mode of life here closely resembles that of feudal Japan.



The Human World and Soul Society are parallel to each other and are two sides of the same coin. Families separated by death are rarely reunited in the Soul Society unless they arrive in Soul Society together. People live nestled together like a family of strangers. One never gets hungry (if she or he doesn't have spiritual powers) and aging is slowed to a great extent, with lifespans of 2000 or more years not being unheard of, though such ages are limited to Shinigami or other Soul Society dwellers with high spiritual power. Children can be born as they are in the Human World. People can also be killed as regular Humans are, though they are capable of surviving wounds that would normally be considered fatal. A soul that dies in Soul Society is reincarnated on Earth as a new Human with no past memories.[3]

Some stuff have been explained also in this arc (the balance of the 2 worlds, the balancers, and the coin part that was mentioned in the character book), so we will probably get more explanations about Bleach's world in addition to flash-backs for lots of characters in this arc.



About Urahara, he wasn't exiled, he ran away from Soul Society with Yoruichi, Tessai and the Vizard, you can re-check the Pendulum arc.



Well, this explain a lot. Thanks. eventhough theres many more bugging my mind.
 
  • #78
I kinda disliked that long flashback, but still it was a nice chapter this time. Yamamoto one-hit killing enemies is so much more gratifying than when Ichigo does it.



And of course, the next chapter that mook is going to rise again for dramatic effect, isn't he?
 
  • #79
patr10 said:
At the begining of Bleach, when Ichigo tried to save Rukia, Choujiro Sasakibe was down by single punch from the Ichigo, and now we learn that he had a bankai 2000 years ago. WTF?



Maybe he forgot how to use it, huh..!



Ichigo is a beast. You DO know that right? The problem with him is that due to hollow self he was unable to use his full potential of powers since the power was split in two.  Thus his strength varied, as Ulquiora saying, going from measly fodder to way above Ulqi.



Ichigo did not suddenly "get" more reiatsu. He learned to use and mastered what he had. Jinzen allowed him to be at peak potential all the time and peak-Ichigo was facepalming Aizen(after several transformations and power increases) into the groupd



That makes the sokyoku accident easy to explain - Ichigo when he arrived was at the highest of his potential, with full resolve and etc, thus its normal that someone who has capability of reaching levels way above Aizen, to own some captain level oponents.



Chojiro had no time to use his bankai - had he used his bankai, we have no idea what would happen. But he most likely underestimated Ichigo's power(due to fluctuating nature of it) and paid the price by getting knocked out.



Candor said:
]These were plot-holes that were explained in an official character book (an old one), they're written in wikia.bleach.com, here you go (the first paragraph was in the manga, the rest wasn't)

Not plotholes since most of it can be understood with a common sense even without explanation, its a given that Shinigami live way longer than "humans"
 
  • #80
We finally see some significant back story for Yamamoto and of course he absolutely annihilates the Quincy :P
 
  • #81
FINALLY.. the younger version of Yamamoto and Chojiro

phew..  i sense flahback even older than 1000.. or..



This is very confusing.. is the Shinigami and the Royal Guards or whatever they called.. aren't they used to be human? because some of them like Renji, Rukia and even Kenpachi live in the Rukongai where supposedly dead human in the real world were brought here. and this make them ex-human..



This has bugged me for a long time.. like the timeline is very very confusing.. (maybe my fault cos i dont understand). Is there something like 100 years in ss is equal to 1 year in real world? or something else.. can someone explain??



Urahara. He lives a 100 years ago and exiled to real world.. Thus his aging now follow the time in ss or he lives as a human being?? (along with Tesai)
 
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