Bleach Chapter 490 Discussion

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  • #66
Subtle Ishida power hype? I approve. I miss when Ishida used to actually be cool and threatening without looking lame only few panels later. Hope it amounts to something good.
 
  • #67
Zhou said:


Maddo_scientisto said:
There is a big parralel between Ichigo's FGT form and the quincie's final form. To begin with their power are on an even level. Secondly they both have a shortcut to achieve that form. Thirdly they both aren't complete if used with the shortcut.

Can you prove it?



Ichigo will beat the shit out of that captain, it's time for him to die. I like the fast pace the new arc has so far.

"Letzt Stil" is by the way not correct, it should be "Letzter Stil" (not a term you would ever use) and I also think it should be "Sternenritter" (knights of the stars/star knights).



There is no definite proof but that's what the hint let by Kubo so far make you beleive. He's obviously setting of Ishida as his equal so that we get a Ichigo vs Ishida fight aka gifted children vs hardworker aka demon form vs angel form.



Back when Ishida used his final form it was said that mastering the glove could lead a quincy to the limit of his potential but that if you break the glove you will instantly reach that limit for a small time at the cost of your power.

When he was in his final form he speedblitzed a captain, feat that even Yoruichi who is called the fastest captain never managed to do as of yet. He destroyed his bankai with one single arrow while being damaged and poisoned. He manipulated reiatsu in a way that Mayuri thought was inconcevable and even made Mayuri say that this is not a power that a single soul should be able to possess.

Ishida in his final form had one wing while this captain from the quincy side had 2. One used the shortcut and one didn't, see what i'm getting at?





Even though it wasn't explicitely said you need to be blind to not see the parallel with Ichigo's FGT form. He sacrified his power to temporaly reach the limit of his potential. He had power that transcended his kind.

Ichigo's FGT wasn't complete as well. Ichigo's nature has been said many time to be cloacking himself into power. Yet this same Ichigo have one of his arm and part of his chest not covered by his FGT.



Ishida got his shortcut from his grandfather (which was more of a parental figure to him than his own father). Ichigo got his shortcut from his father.

Still I beleive that both will get strong enough to acheive their final form without any sacrifice by the end of the serie and that somewhere along that way they have to fight against each other, not because they despise each other but because they each belong to a different side of the war.
 
  • #68
Ishida can't be a traitor?

And what does this mean, 'one of the 5 special war potentials'
 
  • #69
Kuchenlight said:
Wow, the german is horrible.

As a Anime & Manga-Nerd I'm used to funny german, because the Japanese love it so much. But this.... just no.



Pretty much the same here. The german words are used in such an amazingly incorrect way, at one point I couldn't understand what they were supposed to mean.

I'm talking about this page: click here -> The "Quincy Letzt Stil"? What is that supposed to mean? Well, on the next page, it says it's "Qincy Vollständig", so I guess it's supposed to mean he reaches his completed form? And while we're at it: why does it has two names? The "real" name and the other one? I'm lost.





By the way, the scanlation I've read said in a TL note that "Quincy Vollständig" is supposed to liertally (!) translate into "Complete Holy Form", this is just plain WRONG, "vollständig" translates into "completed", it says NOTHING about anything holy or any kind of form, just "completed".
 
  • #70
Zhou said:
-MgZ_ said:
So Ishida is fucking stronk? Omg I wanna see.

His father is probably such a strong badass that it makes the captain think so.



Maddo_scientisto said:
There is a big parralel between Ichigo's FGT form and the quincie's final form. To begin with their power are on an even level. Secondly they both have a shortcut to achieve that form. Thirdly they both aren't complete if used with the shortcut.

Can you prove it?





Ichigo will beat the shit out of that captain, it's time for him to die. I like the fast pace the new arc has so far.

"Letzt Stil" is by the way not correct, it should be "Letzter Stil" (not a term you would ever use) and I also think it should be "Sternenritter" (knights of the stars/star knights).





F.....f.....fast pace? Was? xD
 
  • #71
LOL what if Ishida was a spy ever since he started training with his father?  its not really that far off. I mean he has said over and over again that the shinigami where not his friends or allies.
 
  • #72
How long before it gets revealed that Ichigo's mom was a Quincy, so Ichigo has to awaken his dormant Quincy power in order to become a complete Super Shingami Fullbring Vaizard Hollow Quincy?
 
  • #73
Great chapter but it went by so fast! xD Ichigo vs Bankai Quincy!!?
 
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