- #58
Come on, now Ukitake is supposed to be a bad guy? The nicest guy in the entire series with no indication or forshadowing whatsoever has just been declared the "bad guy".
No foreshadowing?
- Ukitake having sokyoku-destroying seals from unknown noble family - aka something Captains WOULD NOT have.
- Ukitake recognizing Ichigo's reiatsu.(byakyuya also did and now seems to hold Ichigo in quite high regard, but Ukitake handed Ichigo the badge after that)
- his dialogue with Aizen when Aizen was leaving.
- Kaien's utter reluctance and rejection of ukitake's offer to be his VC.
- Kaien's convenient death and Shiba clan's supposed possible connection to Kurosaki family.
- Ukitake handling Ichigo a badge saying some bullshit and NO ONE else recognising it.
- Ishida getting a VERY bad vibe about the badge.
- Chad noting that badge looks "ominous".
- His anouncement that he will be taking Captain-Commander's place for now(during arrancar arc) and his "death glare" when hitsugaya asks why him.
- His seeming disappointment that Captain Commander won't leave his position (and his two subordinates even noticed that).
- Rukia's first mission to real world, memories of which, SOMEHOW GOT ERASED FROM HER HEAD.
- His dialogue with shunsui during the top espada fight in fake karakura town.
- name of his sword,Sōgyo no Kotowari , bassically meaning, truth of pisces, aka twin/dual fishes.
- Wonderweiss. Is said to be attracted to pure things and despise the "unclean things". What he did the moment he got to the scene? Skewered Ukitake.
There has been a lot of foreshadowing of SOMETHING being up with him. MANY of people who actually read this manga instead of compalining have been constantly debating and speculating about him since SS arc ended.
kennikitty said:
We've never been told Ichigos reitsu was actually surpressed, Ichigo himself should have noticed, but he didn't.
Ulquiora: "his reiatsu seems to be constantly fluctuating. At the highest he is stronger than me" .
The fact that Ichigo was a lot more weaker after returning from SS.
Also The fact that after SS arc NO ONE else in his class started displaying spiritual awareness.
kennikitty said:
The fact that a no-name stupid laugh of a Shinigami who serves as a comic relief doesn't know about the supstitude badge, is not exactly a real indication either, because this Shinigami is just plain stupid.
You like him or not, he is a character there, part of SS, has a shikai and is part of group of shinigami to whom the badge SHOULD BE KNOWN and matter. Also there;s hitsugaya's reaction to the badge in arancar arc.
Isshinw as also comic relief. As was Tessai. As is Urahara. Does not stop them from mattering.
kennikitty said:
The only other real "indication" is supposed to be the badge itself, but is it really this strange to let the guy who rescued Soul Soceity work for them? And give him some credit for what he did? No, it's not.
Yes and then both Ishida and Chad note how ominous and "wrong" badge feels, ishida being the most distressed about it.
kennikitty said:
And yeah, Ichigo was able to hear his friends through the badge. So what? We've seen freakier things in this series: namely Mayuri and his works. Who gives a shit about a badge that works as a phone?
The fact that no one told Ichigo he would or should be able to hear someone through it? The fact that it is completely DIFFERENT form ukitake's description of the badge. Everything?
kennikitty said:
This is not foreshadowing, this is just taking some things from the past and try to make someone bigger out of it, although there was nothing big to begin with.
There are thousand of ways to do foreshadowing. Sometimes even the way stuff is written matters (how clow country is written in japanese being an important clue to the twist in the ending arc of trc for example)
Your excuse of "this is not foreshadowing because I did not see it!!!11oneone" does not work. A LOT of people have been talking about these points for past years.
