D.Gray-man Chapter 245 Discussion
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galaxynolight said:
Sw3at said:
The biggest mystery to me is still about the night where Allen called Mana's soul to become an akuma... That's what I'm dying to see with new perspectives!
But I guess we aren't gonna get it yet, and it is Mana who will probably explain us by the end of the story if he somewhat recovers his memory (or Road, or Cross when we see him again). Because Allen is definitly lost between what's true and what isn't, it won't come from him... We all are lost.
And Apocryphos is still too much enigmatic to me, I won't jump in to conclusions to say that Allen is the Heart, I've got a feeling that the Heart (who ever gave orders to Apocryphos) needs him. Okay Apocyrphos is an autonomus Innocence, but I think that he's some sort of golem which means he was manufactured by an important person of the Church, not even an exorcist in the legal aspect of things (with the coat, autorisations on paper to go on missions, but someone free to do whatever they want because no one can confront their ideas/orders) necessary. He doesn't have the biggest position in it, he serves it, he's a soldier (kind of like a Terminator).
EDIT: I re-read the chapter and indeed it sounds like Allen is the Heart... (I'd prefer if it wasn't the protagonist like we thought for so many years through Hoshino's indications, because why nobody detected it? Hevlasaka? Needed Mana to trigger and unlock the Heart mode, for it to be detected? Because Neah reincarnated in him and has special powers/synchronisation with the Earl which makes this possible or because he's half-Noah and half-Innocence possessor?)
I don't think someone really try to check allen innocence throughly, i think because we doesn't know enough about allen power,i don't think we even know in exacly why allen power transform from a anti akuma arm to crown clown, I'll sure that allen don't really know about all of power in him
Same goes with Lenalee (who we thought was the Heart at first) and Kanda tho, Innocence evolves after going above its limits...
we know that it's crystal innocence, but with allen we don't know what crown clown is really, i don't think hevlaska check it or can check it
exacky because innocence evolves after going above its limits, i think because only in this arc we really know about the past of allen and we discovered a lot about him, we don't know enough about allen power for determine if crown clown is the final form of the innocence, because of this and because crown clown is the innocence that we don't know all about him, it is possible crown clown is a result of the other ability of allen innocence and not the real power of allen, also the evolves of lenalee and kanda happen in different shape from allen innocence that change the abilities of the innocence completely different from the first, and in kanda and lenalee the innocence doesn't change compeletely the ability, lenalee still use boots and kanda still use sword, but allen doesn't have the
anti akuma arm.
i think perhaps from the point that aprocryphos reveal were the point that hinted allen is the holder of the heart because why aprocryphos try to became one with alllen and not a other innocence holder?
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Sw3at said:
The biggest mystery to me is still about the night where Allen called Mana's soul to become an akuma... That's what I'm dying to see with new perspectives!
But I guess we aren't gonna get it yet, and it is Mana who will probably explain us by the end of the story if he somewhat recovers his memory (or Road, or Cross when we see him again). Because Allen is definitly lost between what's true and what isn't, it won't come from him... We all are lost.
And Apocryphos is still too much enigmatic to me, I won't jump in to conclusions to say that Allen is the Heart, I've got a feeling that the Heart (who ever gave orders to Apocryphos) needs him. Okay Apocyrphos is an autonomus Innocence, but I think that he's some sort of golem which means he was manufactured by an important person of the Church, not even an exorcist in the legal aspect of things (with the coat, autorisations on paper to go on missions, but someone free to do whatever they want because no one can confront their ideas/orders) necessary. He doesn't have the biggest position in it, he serves it, he's a soldier (kind of like a Terminator).
EDIT: I re-read the chapter and indeed it sounds like Allen is the Heart... (I'd prefer if it wasn't the protagonist like we thought for so many years through Hoshino's indications, because why nobody detected it? Hevlasaka? Needed Mana to trigger and unlock the Heart mode, for it to be detected? Because Neah reincarnated in him and has special powers/synchronisation with the Earl which makes this possible or because he's half-Noah and half-Innocence possessor?)
I don't think someone really try to check allen innocence throughly, i think because we doesn't know enough about allen power,i don't think we even know in exacly why allen power transform from a anti akuma arm to crown clown, I'll sure that allen don't really know about all of power in him
Same goes with Lenalee (who we thought was the Heart at first) and Kanda tho, Innocence evolves after going above its limits...
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The biggest mystery to me is still about the night where Allen called Mana's soul to become an akuma... That's what I'm dying to see with new perspectives!
But I guess we aren't gonna get it yet, and it is Mana who will probably explain us by the end of the story if he somewhat recovers his memory (or Road, or Cross when we see him again). Because Allen is definitly lost between what's true and what isn't, it won't come from him... We all are lost.
And Apocryphos is still too much enigmatic to me, I won't jump in to conclusions to say that Allen is the Heart, I've got a feeling that the Heart (who ever gave orders to Apocryphos) needs him. Okay Apocyrphos is an autonomus Innocence, but I think that he's some sort of golem which means he was manufactured by an important person of the Church, not even an exorcist in the legal aspect of things (with the coat, autorisations on paper to go on missions, but someone free to do whatever they want because no one can confront their ideas/orders) necessary. He doesn't have the biggest position in it, he serves it, he's a soldier (kind of like a Terminator).
EDIT: I re-read the chapter and indeed it sounds like Allen is the Heart... (I'd prefer if it wasn't the protagonist like we thought for so many years through Hoshino's indications, because why nobody detected it? Hevlasaka? Needed Mana to trigger and unlock the Heart mode, for it to be detected? Because Neah reincarnated in him and has special powers/synchronisation with the Earl which makes this possible or because he's half-Noah and half-Innocence possessor?)
I don't think someone really try to check allen innocence throughly, i think because we doesn't know enough about allen power,i don't think we even know in exacly why allen power transform from a anti akuma arm to crown clown, I'll sure that allen don't really know about all of power in him
