D.Gray-man Chapter 242 Discussion

Sw3at said:
What we're having here are exactly the lines and same words from the story of the 3rd Reverse novel released 10 years ago... (well, there are some little changes, as for the add of Apocryphos who wasn't introduced then, and Cross Marian's encounter with Road)

I know that since it was released in France last august and I checked it out, and if I'm correct there are like only 2 chapters to go. I hope we'll have new hype content by then and not just drop where the novel stopped. I'd really like a confrontation between Cross and Apocryphos. (after what I want to go back to the current timeline, I miss it)

I'm a huge fan of DGM and I manage to remember most of what happen even if it's confusing as hell, but this one chapter disappointed me. Could've add more pages...



She's very active on her instagram, making stories and everything, but I really hope that Katsura Hoshino's illness(es) isn't growing... Those last 2 years of content (8 chapters... damn) have been much slower (maybe because of covid idk?).

i won't stop saying this, I hope that she takes care of herself!



Yes, it’s as you said! It’s been a while since I read the reverse novel, but it makes me excited to see the story unfold in the manga this time!



What’s happening between Nea and Mana is like a parallel with Cain and Abel: one brother killing the other. But Mana is experiencing madness with his broken memories and most likely after killing Nea. Red being controlled by Apocryphos in order to destroy the Millenium Earl is quite interesting addition. Mana, the human part of him, had been trying to not transform into the Earl & as we found from the earlier parts of the story, the Earl feeds on grief because in turn it helps him create akuma.



What all the chapters have been showing is that there’s clearly a third party in the war between Noahs and the Order. It’s a party where the Heart, the Pillar, and Apocryphos are standing. If you think about it, the Bible in real life tells us about Noah’s family. They were in God’s side in a way, but DGM gives us an opposite story where the Noahs are against what’s considered God’s side, the Order. But at the same time, the humans who become Noahs are also struggling with their human-Noah identities.



Anyway, I really hope Hoshino’s health is okay. Drawing manga looks hard & with the quality she keeps on giving us even with few pages, the details on every page, it feels like she probably took a lot of time to draw each page even if she had assistants. Storyboarding, cleaning, inking, all these little details and tasks to make these chapters come to life… I also want more pages, but I’ve got to admit that she has such impeccable timing with the chapter endings. Like she really mastered that.



I don’t feel very confused to be honest. Even if I have some questions, I could feel that we are getting such a slow but meticulous build-up every chapter. It’s amazing when you think of how this is a decades old manga already.

okay so I'm writing this as I check back the chapter:

So we start off with Mana/the Earl's... mental image? of Nea+tim, so, as things are happening he's mentally there in that field, okay.

Image goes back up to what's actually happening, which is, I THINK, apocryphos controlling red/child allen's hand (who thinks he's taking revenge for dog-allen or something like that)  to kill off the earl, cool, nice. As this happens, Mana/Earl's figure seems to get distorted, is it distorting because of what he's seeng, because he lost the dog, wich triggers back memories from a previous lost, or is it the touch of the innocence? idk

As Mana/the Earl breaks off that mental image we started on, when Nea tells him to keep walking (where to, tho? pls give me some further development i literally got two college degrees since this started i'm dying). He manages to snap out of it and thank red/child allen for caring for dog-allen, as he tells him (or himself?) to not grieve further, for that will bring up the earl. Then there's some shattering imagery that doesn't speak clearly to me, like, i get "his mind is breaking" but... in what sense? like, am i seeing the human mana's mind breaking? or noah-mana's mind? earl's mind? maybe actually apocryphos control over red/child allen? i have no clue.



Interesting notes:

- aprocryphos calls red/chil allen "my disciple" but they could also be reffereing to... just the hand? I mean we know innocence it's a weird thing that can kinda have a mind of it's own, like, literally, apocryphos but idk. It would be cool to see that developed tho.

Also someone once commented that the arc's name reffer's to mana saying goodbye to red/child-allen because probably his mind will be gone and only the earl will remain, which would make sense but i need more backstory, badly. With no more animal cruelty, if possible.



k this is all i got so far

Soo grief was what created the Millenium Earl in the first place and it's what would bring him back..? Man, I'm enjoying all this but it's gotten so damn confusing x'D

I came here expecting someone with an excellent memory explaining wtf is going on at this point but it seems I am not alone in my confusion

What we're having here are exactly the lines and same words from the story of the 3rd Reverse novel released 10 years ago... (well, there are some little changes, as for the add of Apocryphos who wasn't introduced then, and Cross Marian's encounter with Road)

I know that since it was released in France last august and I checked it out, and if I'm correct there are like only 2 chapters to go. I hope we'll have new hype content by then and not just drop where the novel stopped. I'd really like a confrontation between Cross and Apocryphos. (after what I want to go back to the current timeline, I miss it)

I'm a huge fan of DGM and I manage to remember most of what happen even if it's confusing as hell, but this one chapter disappointed me. Could've add more pages...



She's very active on her instagram, making stories and everything, but I really hope that Katsura Hoshino's illness(es) isn't growing... Those last 2 years of content (8 chapters... damn) have been much slower (maybe because of covid idk?).

i won't stop saying this, I hope that she takes care of herself!

Short chapter again, and once again I don’t know what's going on. Red tries to kill Mana, but the memory of Allen the dog apparently stops him before he can. Also Mana thanks him, but I don't know if he's referring to Red, the dog or Neah. Apocryphos looks as creepy as always.

Welp stuff happened, I don't remember either lel.

Mana's memories slowly gets shattered throughout the chapter.

Red grieve for dog Allen is sad with Apo guy messing up with Red.

Red's slowly regain his conscious but Mana's memories completely shattered at the end of chapter.



The art is gorgeous with a few creepy pages.

Apocryphos is annoying asf someone gotta get his asap

It's really hard to follow and don't know what to say anymore after reading all of the replies here but I am glad that chapter are releasing its not the same case as Nana,hxh or berserk at least.

Ye it's indeed hard to keep up with how the chapters release after so long.



I think he thanked Red.

Fantastic chapter!



If someone told me in the begining of DGM that I will love Earl, and he will became great chatacter, possibly one of the best written villains? I would never believe him. But Hoshino just did that...and it is amazing.



Yes, it could be better if it was like 50 pages, but we know that is all about Hoshino health and we don't want her end up as Miura. So even 19 pages works well for me. But it's true that there could be 23 pages or else, still from plot point it is much better choice to finish chapter at this point.



Art in this chapter was amazing. Each manga panel was like whole picture. And you even feel that this story is alive itself. Hoshino is real magician xD



Now talking about plot...well I expected to see chapter like this. Moment when Allen saw dog inside of Mana was weird. With this translation it seems that dog illusion didn't calm down Red, but actually made him even more angry. And we finally get to the point when Mana will became Earl again.

I'm not even close to understand what is going on between Nea and Mana. I meen Mana is clearly not evil. Yes, you could say that he killed Nea(or try to do that), but that happened already after events like Nea who killed all Noah's except Road and Mana and after Nea created 14- th room. Also I remember about Nea who after meeting Mana in nowadays said that:"it doesn't matter if Mana remember or not, till he could kill him." From other hand he made Mana following "Allen" till he meet him. Mana is really not looking evil at all, he just wanted to stay near his brother...he gives vibe of really good person, unlike Nea. So yeah...I don't believe that Mana gone mad first.

Now talking about Apocryph - he called Allen his disciple, while he called Heart as his master, which proves that Allen is not the heart.