Hunter x Hunter Chapter 357 Discussion

Everything makes sense.



At first this whole fight felt like it didn't really fit in the middle of everything else this arc, but it's a great setup for things to come. I love how Shalnark and Kortopi are killed off this quickly and to see their bodies like that is really effective.

Damn wait The Phatom troupe are about to be Body guards for the Kakin princes so they going to the DC with Kurapika there and once Hisoka finds out he will be going to and OMG this is gonna be one hell of a battle

Is Ging gonna help out Kurapika would Killua go once he finds out his brother is gonna be there and is part of the Troupe idk but it's about to be intense man

Really liked this chapter. Finally the fight is over and finally the plot can progress. It seems now there are some changes in Hisoka (which I don't really understand).

BigBoss said:
@dark-chaos



I'm not really buying it, as he was "dead" for quite a while so it seems way too late for him to start the heart massage to bring himself back to life and it seems that the troupe members even checked his body to see if he is still alive before he used bungee gum to bring himself back to life after they left the hotel room.



I would be ok with there being an extreme condition such as him being a walking corpse as you said with maybe some limited time period left to "live" but from that raw it didn't seem that way at all he seemed to literally brought himself back to life without any real consequences and just casually goes off and kills 2 troupe members like it was nothing, sure they didn't have their hatsus but cmon they are troupe members they should probably give him at least some sort of a challenge.



well i didn't try to change your mind

i just give you my point why i accept this scenario



no actually i like it, even i don't like hisoka, but i really like how togashi make something unexpected



do you remember when the king survived the explosion , alot fans hate this and think it's waste of time, and who can kill the king now? , but finally it's result to make a beautiful end for the arc and the king



what i mean i don't really care how hisoka back, I care about the result that his back will effect the story

so i always try to be positive until i get the result



and i really trust togashi that he will make things more enjoyable

Okay bear with me, I think I understand this "return from the dead nonsense". In 355 Chrollo explained how the nen ability sun and moon is more powerful because of the original users death. With that being said we have numerous examples of nen users making pacts with their nen in order to become stronger



1. Kurapika and his Chains (Spiders Only) (Chain on heart)

2. Pitou and his body still active after death (Nen was strictly attached to protecting the king and only the king)

3. Gon (Sacrificing his life in order to have the power to defeat pitou), he would've died if not for the divine intervention of "something"



Now we come back to Hisoka's final moments. Right as he was being surrounded he made a pact with his nen that upon his death it would contract and expand. Then stabbed hand into his chest so that it surrounded his heart. (This would mean he used his death as the repercussion for his nen ability to stay active). Then when bungee gum contracted and expanded it pumped the blood in his heart and lungs. Not only did he die but, he is also extremely disfigured and must use his nen at all times to maintain his appearance and ligaments. In my opinion those are some pretty big repercussions.



But, just like Chrollo said some nen abilities stronger after death. So this would explain Hisoka's increase in power. Perhaps his new found ruthlessness was already there. This might be one of the few times he has been defeated, so he killed the two spiders whose nen gave him the most trouble first.

Yep knew Hisoka would asspull Nen post mortem.

Yo WTF now this is the shocking chapter the editor was talking about, Kortopi didn't really have a character but Shalnark man RIP.

Chrollo and the rest of the troupe are getting on the ship, Hisoka has more things to worry about if he goes to the dark continent than some thieves. I wonder if Black voice or maybe Gallery fake get the post mortem treatment and stay on Chrollo's book, that would only be fair.

Luciberi said:


1. Hisoka just stopped breathing for a moment and the used Nen to "come back to life". there is nothing unusual here. people can survive even if their heart stops beating you know.



Lol except his death was from his lungs not from the heart.



Not even Alluka brought someone straight from the dead.

Isterio said:
DarkAngel035 said:




I won't say that HxH has no plot armor but at least this manga presented a more reasonable excuses to cover up this plot armor usage.



So in a nutshell, HxH is equally flawed as the popular Shounen Manga but the pros overweight the cons like it´s the case with any other fanbase got it.



Not really, my point wasn't insinuating that it is equally flawed as the other popular Shounen Manga. All shounen are flawed but they all vary from the degree of how flawed they are.