Gintama Chapter 577 Discussion

__puppy__ said:
I can read a little bit of chinese so here's what I understood :



> Gintoki and Shinpachi are looking for Kagura. They talk about Kamui saying that he would try to kill his father as long as he's alive so they know that Kagura is certainly with them. So yeah, they should be gathered together next chapter.

Gin says that he has a bad feeling. I wonder how he will react when he sees Utsuro.



> Kagura tells Umibouzu and Kamui to stop. She wants them to "come back" but Kamui says it's too late, saying that her big brother doesn't exist anymore and that her father will soon disappear too. He actually intended to kill her, saying that her death would help to awaken the beast inside Umibouzu. But here Kagura tells him that the little sister he knew doesn't exist anymore and fights back (Kagura ftw) She also says that Kamui is the only one who didn't change because he didn't get stronger at all. And then she threw him at the wall.



> For the flashback part, it says that Kamui was actually a crybaby trying to act tough in front of his mother even though he cried when Umibouzu abandoned them. I don't know why Kagura says that he's also been abandoned by his mom since he's the one who left first but well he's basically someone who's been abandoned by everyone. My guess is that their mom was already dying at that time and he felt abandoned by her since he knew she was going to die.



Seeing his children fight, Umibouzu tells them that it's enough and to stop.

And Utsuro appears from nowhere %D



Hope that helped.

So Kamui began to follow his Yato blood between the two times Umibouzu abandoned his family (1st time = leaving Kamui and 2nd time = leaving Kagura) and when his mother 'abandoned' him too, he became violent and tried to kill his father when he came back and after his defeat, he left Kagura and his mother.



Damn all of this is making me feel some type of way for Kamui. :(



Thx for the quicky summary, can't wait the full translation.



@chaliceoftears I kinda agree with you on what you said above on post #24, it also makes me wonder how much time has passed between those 3 last serious arcs, all of this is happening so fast like its just a little under a month and we haven't seen her train anywhere in between.

I can read a little bit of chinese so here's what I understood :



> Gintoki and Shinpachi are looking for Kagura. They talk about Kamui saying that he would try to kill his father as long as he's alive so they know that Kagura is certainly with them. So yeah, they should be gathered together next chapter.

Gin says that he has a bad feeling. I wonder how he will react when he sees Utsuro.



> Kagura tells Umibouzu and Kamui to stop. She wants them to "come back" but Kamui says it's too late, saying that her big brother doesn't exist anymore and that her father will soon disappear too. He actually intended to kill her, saying that her death would help to awaken the beast inside Umibouzu. But here Kagura tells him that the little sister he knew doesn't exist anymore and fights back (Kagura ftw) She also says that Kamui is the only one who didn't change because he didn't get stronger at all. And then she threw him at the wall.



> For the flashback part, it says that Kamui was actually a crybaby trying to act tough in front of his mother even though he cried when Umibouzu abandoned them. I don't know why Kagura says that he's also been abandoned by his mom since he's the one who left first but well he's basically someone who's been abandoned by everyone. My guess is that their mom was already dying at that time and he felt abandoned by her since he knew she was going to die.



Seeing his children fight, Umibouzu tells them that it's enough and to stop.

And Utsuro appears from nowhere %D



Hope that helped.

So Kamui began to follow his Yato blood between the two times Umibouzu abandoned his family (1st time = leaving Kamui and 2nd time = leaving Kagura) and when his mother 'abandoned' him too, he became violent and tried to kill his father when he came back and after his defeat, he left Kagura and his mother.

railguncat said:
Warrior3 said:
Ramkec said:
railguncat said:
Ramkec said:
Warrior3 said:
Ramkec said:
Ok full raws are out, I don't get what is Kamui trying to accomplish here, first he fights Umibozu, gets rekt, then fights Kagura, gets rekt. :/



Utsuro should have just killed him off, but now he's gonna kill Umibozu, so its all good.Kamui hater, bleh. -_-



Recently his development has been pretty dull for a serious arcs only character, he couldn't even beat Okita. :/ And he wants to fight Takasugi and Gintoki, sit down boi.



Wait. u talking abt that 10 seconds fight that hospitalized Okita? Ahaha. U think he couldve survived Kamui's death punch right before the ship exploded? He couldnt, hence the random explosion. Go thx Sorachi your boi Sougo's still alive. Kamui was just fucking around looking to test the samurai power. Sorry but you go sit down in a corner.



What's the name of a fight where Kamui beat someone fair and square who had a good fighting reputation in Gintama? That's right. We don't know.



Warrior3 said it the best above, Kamui is just a hype character. I feel for you fans but it is what it is and he's there for Kagura's development, that's it. but still you shouldn't blame Kamui just because Sorachi decided to make his every single fight interrupted by random characters lol



how about we talk about Takasugi's fight instead.



Edit: The one in SA with Gintoki doesn't count. lol, the only people he'd fought apart from Gintoki were those amanto dudes during the Joi war and now. But that's it.

Warrior3 said:
Ramkec said:
Warrior3 said:
Ramkec said:
Ok full raws are out, I don't get what is Kamui trying to accomplish here, first he fights Umibozu, gets rekt, then fights Kagura, gets rekt. :/



Utsuro should have just killed him off, but now he's gonna kill Umibozu, so its all good.Kamui hater, bleh. -_-



Recently his development has been pretty dull for a serious arcs only character, he couldn't even beat Okita. :/ And he wants to fight Takasugi and Gintoki, sit down boi. what the hell are you talking about? Do you even watch Gintama attentively? If the fight hadn't been interrupted by an explosion, Kamui would have killed Sougo (even he himself admitted that Kamui is too monstrous to beat), there's NO way he's stronger than Kamui, so...

And so what if he wants to fight Takasugi and Gintoki as strong samurais? There's nothing stupid with that. And you know nothing about his past, the backstory's only starting to progress. You sit down, boi.



I don't really want to guess what could and couldn't happen if the fight didn't get interrupted. Fact is they tied at the end.



I can't hold down the characters that fly on hype wind, so yea.



The sit down part was meant for Kamui, not you lol.

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So,we do have Kagura vs Kamui part 2 this chapter. And my most awaited clash will finally happen:


Utsuro vs Umibozu. I've seen his death flag since the start of the arc. Now, the flag is waving so hard on him.

oh man the death flag is waving so hard above umibozou that it lloks like they are next to a tornado.

Raws are out and it's great! That page with Umibozu and young Kagura and Kamui was nice. Kagura (without Yato mode) just swinging Kamui O_O! And the cuts between the past and present was well done. Poor Umibozu has to watch the too fight. His face T_T. Next chapter Utsuro vs. Umibozu. No, the death flag might be reality ;_;. Kamui and Kagura better help!



5/5

Warrior3 said:
Kuma said:
Warrior3 said:
Kuma said:
kamui fanboy really annoying not only in site where i read. bitching just because he called crybaby and dont get stronger and rant like 3 page essay. damn.Hmm, I sometimes read comments on ReadManga and there are Kamui haters provoking his fans at times, with which they are way more annoying to me, than some fanboys/fangirls. i use a site that there is sytem called tsukkomi and older tsukkomi is placed lower. it's not becuase popularity, and you know what lowest tsukkomis in page when kagura said crybaby?  "she is a whinning shit" hope someone already report. some pages before even much worse because umibozu fanboy VS kamui fanboy. yea, that's MangaHere site I'm reading. Yea I saw tsukkomis there, but since I like Kamui too and looked at the times the tsukkomis have been written by both sides, i can assume, that that umibozu fanboy started that nonsense debate... you can easily moving tsukkomis, and what first tsukkomi is ditching umibozu and said everything that happened to kamui is his fault.