Gantz Chapter 383 Discussion

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  • #130
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Al fín. Vi el anime cuando tenia 12 años, y por mucho tiempo escuche que el manga era diferente. Fueron 15 años, pero al fín decidí leer la verdadera historia y por fín sacarme esa espina. Fue una buena historia con sus altos y bajos, pero no hay historia perfecta. Me alegro que Kei y Tae por fin lograran terminar juntos. Takeshi tiene una familia amorosa. Ayumu recupero a su hermano Kato.

Me hubiese gustado que Reika sobreviviera, y que Kurono hubiera podido vencer al ultimo alien sin ayuda.

Fue un año de lectura, pero valió la pena. Gracias por la historia Oku Hiroya.
 
  • #131
It had its ups an downs, but it was definitely one hell of a ride! Arguably Oni Alien and Osaka were the peak of this manga.



I hope Dark Horse someday releases deluxe hardcover editions for Gantz. Art has always been strong for this series.
 
  • #132
Honestly didn't mind the ending, but I get why people were mad at it. I still loved Gantz for what it was and the adventure it brought us on. I loved nearly all the characters except for Nishi and Izumi (although I appreciated Izumi in some parts). I didn't get why people were so angry at Tae for being such a crybaby. I guess that's how people thought back then and everyone was edgy in the early 2010s.  I can count myself lucky for binging it because I couldn't imagine waiting monthly for the chapters to come out.



Overall I feel a strong 9/10 for this crazy manga, with the only thing hindering it being the rushed ending. The art was fire but sometimes could be jarring with the effects of CG and real life implemented. Action and stakes were on top as well. Kei Kurono was an excellent protagonist and I really missed him during the Osaka team arc. I'll definitely try out some of Oku's other works seeing that he makes some insane shit.
 
  • #133
Look, I know that many of you are very discontent by the very un-cathartic ending. I agree that it leaves no closure to many of the questions we want answered, like "will Katou marry that 24 year old girl with that possible dead baby of hers?" and "What about the giant spaceship? Did that explode on Earth?" The ending is way to lazy and we all know it.



But I want to defend Gantz, because in my perspective, there was a solid ending that occurred a couple of chapters before episode 383. And personally, Katou and Kurono's love life and the exploding spaceship are secondary to what Gantz was trying to accomplish. For me, I interpreted the manga as a very philosophical work. It's about trying to find meaning, logos, in a world that seems to be none. It's a very existential work, not nihilist at all, with many characters coming to realize that meaning in life does not exist beyond what you make of it. Many characters suffered from the spiritual emptiness they felt, and Kurono especially abandoned any presence of God for Tae-chan. God, man, meaning, survival are all independent elements trying to find connection with each other. But that again becomes hard to accomplish when the giants appear and blow up the freaking planet.



Yet in chapter 370, all the philosophical questions become answered when the Gantz team meets "god" after Kurono kept on reminding himself that there is none. Well, he was wrong to a certain degree, because he meets that freaky behemoth who answers all the question. And it is here, I argue, where the story finds is closure in its symbolic level. The questions of god, meaning, and such that have been a plague to the characters as well as the readers that finally find some sort of resolution. After this point, everything else that happens is not that important.



What made Gantz so great was the ability to challenge not only the boundaries of manga in general, but also to challenge your mind. For example, I remember the exasperation when understanding the mental schism of Tonkotsu when the meaning of his life, his girlfriend, is lost due to the giants. But when he seeks revenge, only regret and despair, not catharsis, is achieved. Just how powerful those moments were, I can't seem to forget. The fight scenes, the overt sexuality (which I also have my theories on), and the amazing drawings were thing on the literal level that captivated the readers. But we also should consider the symbolic, and how the two registers interact with each other dynamically. I don't think we should consider Gantz bad because the ending had no closures. I mean, come on! The manga was never about closures, but opening up the possibilities since the beginning!
 
  • #134
Well no real explanation to things just a normal terrible ending alls to say that was expected would have liked to see some other characters
 
  • #135
Guns47 said:


Tokyo's just fine despite the mothership falling.

Oku didn't really think this through.



Despite losing consciousness in the middle of the ocean, Kurono and Katou awaken in Tokyo Bay.

Oku didn't really think this through.



Tae's still not wearing pants, implying that no time has past despite the guys being lost in the ocean for two or three days.She's not wearing pants because she's a slut.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the last six pages didn't happen.That would be good news, but I question your logic. What do you think happened? That that was the afterlife or something? Because it was explicitly stated earlier that no such thing exists. It wouldn't make sense in the Gantz universe, not that very much really does, but still.
 
  • #136
what the  ending needs is at least a one chapter epilogue...in fact... it would be really cool if someone who's creative writes a fan fictional epilogue of the gantz manga on fanfiction.net.  if someone can do that, that would be great.   
 
  • #137
the ending was lacking



but it's funny to see it end so peacefully after a nonstop onslaught of death and gore for 380+ chapters



sorta like the author saying both himself and the characters had enough
 
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