Gantz Chapter 370 Discussion

Really ? So many people had a mental brake down because Michael Jackson's and Stephen Hawking's face said there is no god, no higher purpose and human life is no different than ant lives in the perspective of the universe ? Well it was pretty obvious for me, but i guess it may be ground breaking news to the characters.

Siento que esto será como Full Metal Alchemist. Podrá crear los cuerpos, pero no tendrán alma.

Merkil said:
Stop saying this is "philosophical bullshit" ! This is the whole point of Gantz, hadn't you noticed ? The way people are stocked into Gantz's memory... It completely depreciates human lives !

Seriously, how can you read Gantz without thinking about that ?



Young people mostly like pew pew pew stories so they're going to get upset whenever someone's head isn't exploding.



But I do agree that the manga author is simplifying the reactions of some of the characters who are despairing over the revelations.  It's a manga, it's always going to be painting in broad strokes.



I don't quite understand why some people want the manga to go deeper with philosophy, I mean it would be a drastic departure from what we've been reading for over 400 chapters, wouldn't it?  The manga is a mix of crazy action, satire and social commentary.  The main character's defensive outburst on the value of humanity is in stark contrast to how he was in the very first chapter, a jaded teen douchebag.



This new antagonist is quit amusing in how its baffling the characters.

I've felt that the series has been going downhill since the beginning of Phase 3 to be honest. I mean, half of almost every chapter has been Kurono and Tae crying for each other. I agree with those who say that the character's emotions about there being 'no God' are pretty overwrought, however I do hope the following chapters see an explanation for the 'hackings' that have been occurring in previous chapters. I honestly hope that Kishimoto isn't revived, at least Reika actually has more use than being a meatshield.

Notoriety said:
I also didn't like this chapter's philosophical element, but mainly because I can't believe so much of the chapter was spent on such basic philosophy. The existence of God and the meaning of life beyond the potentially deterministic biochemistry of the brain is something most educated or intelligent people have thought about, so I found the characters' melodramatic reactions to these "revelations" to be implausible. Not necessarily. Educated people can be the most close minded and unwilling to accept a seemingly implausible revelations to them. Not to mention I doubt the Gantz survivors are all that educated. If you look at the previous chapter thread you'd see very similar posts to the dialogs on this chapter albeit not traumatized.

pzfreez7 said:
Notoriety said:
I also didn't like this chapter's philosophical element, but mainly because I can't believe so much of the chapter was spent on such basic philosophy. The existence of God and the meaning of life beyond the potentially deterministic biochemistry of the brain is something most educated or intelligent people have thought about, so I found the characters' melodramatic reactions to these "revelations" to be implausible.



In the first place, why are they taking Sebastian's word as absolute truth? If they treat its word as such, how is the existence of such a powerful, omniscient being any different from the existence of a god? Are they crying that their specific God (or the conventional Abrahamic God) is apparently not real? If so, maybe they should have been tipped off earlier, as 1) they all likely have different, mutually exclusive ideas of what God is in the first place and 2) they just spent 369 chapters fighting aliens and teleporting. Additionally, isn't Sebastian also composed of matter? What makes it more special than dust or a human? The way these distinctions are being drawn, either these indictments on human existence also apply to Sebastian, or Sebastian surpasses mere matter and is therefore a god-like being.



It would be cool if it was revealed that each teleportation/scan process involved copying the matter making up a human and destroying the original copy, like in many films/sci-fi works, but they kinda killed that by the gimmick where a person can be halfway through the scan and see the other side and react.



I did enjoy the construction of humans toward the end, as I think that is a visually interesting idea, but overall it felt like a drawn-out Baby's First Existential Crisis. Maybe the only people chosen to fight aliens are those who have never heard of existentialism. Or maybe frequent teleportation scans fry the brain.

Pretty much exactly how I felt while reading it.

+1

most ridiculous reactions in a manga its like they can cry at the drop of a hat ,and with even little to no reason they can understands everything is sensless and ridiculous sigh

well this was erm. though it's manga i don't feel much about myself. D: