Gantz Chapter 370 Discussion

  • #34
DJIzzyIzzyHitler said:
20 bucks says sebastian is gonna be a total dick and kill those guys he just revived to prove how meaningless their lives and how easy they break

I'll take you up on that offer. I prefer cash but a written check should also suffice.
 
  • #35
this chapter was pretty fucking stupid i reccon, i mean the way they reacted to something every adult had to think about atleast once in their godamn life was beyond hillarious, mangaka should just wrap it up and be done with it, seriously that nonsense and melodramatic reactions were beyond stupid, he just went full retard there.
 
  • #36
Basically an argument, between self-claimed "realists" and "ideologists". Anyone could've come up with that. No thanks, Oku.



And Reika? Really?

Kishimoto would've been ok, but bringing Reika back already is stupid. Sure, it's in order to bring a little more drama in Copy-Kurono's characterization, but that doesn't make it better.

One of the other two could be Kishimoto of course, but Reika should've been left out either way.
 
  • #37
20 bucks says sebastian is gonna be a total dick and kill those guys he just revived to prove how meaningless their lives and how easy they break
 
  • #38
I guess I was too naive thinking this manga couldn't get any worse. Selling point of Gantz was, since the beginning, 'shock&awe' but recently it became somewhat of a auto-satire.



Unlike some people, I dislike this force philosophy which began chapter ago. It doesn't seem out of place considering major themes in Gantz but it is done amateurishly. Just end it already, not only this nonsense, but the whole manga altogether.



It's a shame. For a very long time Gantz was a brilliant example of well scripted adult sci-fi/horror/seinen. I guess not anymore.
 
  • #39
This dialogue was kind of ... Retarded. I mean know shit humans are just a product of organic elements and a vast array of chemical reactions ... But this isn't new. These are things taught to a child in middle school ... Why are they having such a problem grasping the fact humans are made out of matter? I mean what the fuck would be made out of if we weren't made out of anything?
 
  • #41
I also didn't like this chapter's philosophical element, but mainly because I can't believe so much of the chapter was spent on such basic philosophy. The existence of God and the meaning of life beyond the potentially deterministic biochemistry of the brain is something most educated or intelligent people have thought about, so I found the characters' melodramatic reactions to these "revelations" to be implausible.



In the first place, why are they taking Sebastian's word as absolute truth? If they treat its word as such, how is the existence of such a powerful, omniscient being any different from the existence of a god? Are they crying that their specific God (or the conventional Abrahamic God) is apparently not real? If so, maybe they should have been tipped off earlier, as 1) they all likely have different, mutually exclusive ideas of what God is in the first place and 2) they just spent 369 chapters fighting aliens and teleporting. Additionally, isn't Sebastian also composed of matter? What makes it more special than dust or a human? The way these distinctions are being drawn, either these indictments on human existence also apply to Sebastian, or Sebastian surpasses mere matter and is therefore a god-like being.



It would be cool if it was revealed that each teleportation/scan process involved copying the matter making up a human and destroying the original copy, like in many films/sci-fi works, but they kinda killed that by the gimmick where a person can be halfway through the scan and see the other side and react.



I did enjoy the construction of humans toward the end, as I think that is a visually interesting idea, but overall it felt like a drawn-out Baby's First Existential Crisis. Maybe the only people chosen to fight aliens are those who have never heard of existentialism. Or maybe frequent teleportation scans fry the brain.
 
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