Claymore Chapter 113 Discussion

Moe_ said:


But what I want to say is:



FUCK I SO DID NOT SEE THIS COMING.



me neither, yust hoped that she will come back to pwn :D

I didn't know how much or what you needed to know, so I was just being very thorough, and verbose :D



(and you probably could read the chapters quicker than read what I wrote, lol)

Why do you guys want Teresa to come back as a villain? That would suck. Although I don't think Teresa is one of the three anyway, since she's missing a head and the guy said he picked the three with 'absolutely no physical deficiencies.' She can't be the scarred one anyway, because she never had 126 different wounds over her body, she didn't break through her 'limit of power' and she didn't take hours to die.

"I've got another theory. remember that claymore Raftela who can make twisted things appear in your head? perhaps the ones who fell for it were the Organization bastards." - dillian



the manga seems clear (after some close and multiple examinations, lol):



3 months ago, the Org recalled all of its remaining Claymores to the Org HQs lying to them that (the dead) Alicia+Beth and the Ghosts and Rebel Claymores were going to attack the Org HQs.



Instead of an army... the Org Claymores watched Miria's arrival... and they were about to laugh... except they didn't have time to, hehe, such power and speed... compared to them... but.. what's this?... the Org Claymores weren't dead...



they quickly realized thus that Miria wasn't an enemy to them, they were all fellow Claymores... and so... they could NOT kill Miria, instead only NON-fatally injuring/hacking her up.



However, the careless BCs there stupidly (wrongly) assumed that their Claymores had fatally injured Miria, and thus that Miria was kill, was dead... OOPSY!



the remaining Org Claymores were actually forced to continue to stay at the Org HQs for those 3 months, until the current time in chapter 113.



so 3 months later... it appears as if Miria has "converted" all of the remaining Claymores to join her and go against the Org... :D



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some people have asked about the TATs (Trainee Awakening Twins):



they actually weren't "completed" in terms of having their emotions sealed... so that's why the one was pained/stalled from the other one having her arm severed by Miria accidentally (due to Raftela' messing with Miria's senses, Miria's eyesight's depth perception), and...



why the one did NOT fatally stab Miria, she had emotions, and thus could recognize Miria's actions, just as the other Org Claymore had as well, and thus they didn't fatally injure Miria.



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I'm personally suspicious of this being a "super plan" of Miria's/Rubel's



a "double strike" against the Org...



Tabatha and the Ghosts attack the Lab



as Miria "suprisingly rises from the dead" leading the converted Claymores at/within the Org HQs to attack the Org HQs



Miria could have actually secretly planned this out with Tabatha, and unknown to the Ghosts... Tabatha was fooling them.. hehe...



Galatea as well... might have known and even been a part of Miria's plan too... Galatea staying behind... to protect Rabona... and to ensure that the Ghosts went off to attack the Org... with Tabatha...



Also, we got Audrey+Rachel as well. remember that they were saved by the Ghosts from Riful? Audrey did say that the next time they meet they'd be enemies... except that Audrey+Rachel did NOT kill Miria in ch 107, hehe.



Audrey could simply have said that to appear to be an "Org loyal" Claymore, like Miria had to do too before the end of the Pieta Battle. Audrey seems like she could have been just like Miria, suspicious of the Org, but smart enough to know that she has to keep that mistrust of the Org a secret, pretending to be loyal to the Org, like Miria.



So, Miria and Audrey could have chatted... and Audrey went back to the Org secretly telling the Claymores about Miria's plan...



and then there's Rubel... he could have informed the Claymores too...



so was it Rubel's super plan... or Miria's super plan... hehe :D

I don't get EXACTLY what happened, though I know vaguely. Can someone explain to me? And what happened to that small claymore whom attacked her first?



And who got slashes 126 times?

Zinvince said:
So how did that happened? they showed how Miria got slashed many times... anyway



maybe that was an illusion made by her, they call her "phantom miria" right?

tears of joy ヽ༼ಢ_ಢ༽ﾉ

HegemonKhan said:
~3 months ago ALL 47 Claymores were recalled to the Org HQs, due to the loss of Alicia+Beth (Gernot's high quality translation of ch 113), the Claymores were  needed to protect the Org HQs from attack as the Org has known about the 7 Ghosts (Miria, Cynthia, Deneve, Helen, Tabatha, Yuma, and Clare) and the Rebelling Claymores (Galatea, Dietrich, Miata, and Clarice) earlier from Clarice+Nina (in Alphonse) and Audrey+Rachel (Against Riful to the ~ N to NW of Rabona). ch 113 's "narrator" Claymore retelling these past events to us.



Miria must have arrived much more recently and this is when Miria attacked/assualted the Org HQs; disabling the Claymores, fighitng the TATs (Trainee Awakening Twins), having her 5 senses and than her mind distorted by Raftela, due to this Miria accidentally cuts off one of the TAT's arms, Miria thinks she's seeing Hilda instead of the TAT who stabs her sword into Miria, and Miria seemingly gets killed, hacked up in a spurt of blood and seeing her hand/arm severed as well, by the Claymores she had merely disabled temproarily. ch 106-107



(we know with ch 113, that Miria was NOT fatally stabbed by the TAT nor sliced up by the Claymores, due to her own mercy of not killing the Claymores and the TATs, who still had their own emotions and thoughts still, and her wearing of her old Claymore uniform. The Claymores could not kill her and so they didn't. The BCs presumed WRONGLY that Miria was dead and left the "body-Miria" to be cleaned up by the Claymores. Also the Claymores either could tell the BCs that Miria was actually still alive, or that they were openly disobeying the BCs. Well, the Claymores must have taken Miria and hid her while Miria healed herself up somehow without the Org noticing. In the meantime, they must have chatted with each other, Miria and the Claymores, and Miria convinced them to join her in rebellion against the Organization)



Well, due to Miria's attack/assualt on the Org HQs, the Org sends/drops off their "city Razing beast-mindless" Awakened male humans and NYs at Rabona, and they attack it. ch 108



Galatea, Miata, Clarice, Tabatha, Cid/Sid, Galk, and the other Rabona soldiers are trying to defend Rabona from the Org's attack/seige/assualt with Awakeneds and NYs. ch 108



At this same time, Clare-Destroyer had already sealed up Priscilla, now as a "blob" of the 3 of them, so Deneve, Helen, Cynthia, Yuma, and Dietrich are rushing back to Rabona with/carrying the "blob", as Galatea is the best Yoki Sensor of them, and she can hopefully tell what is up with the "blob" and thus Clare. They notice the battle and help out. Afterwards both group get the bad news, the loss of Miria and Clare. Helen takes Galatea to the "blob" left nearby to Rabona, but then Deneve is sensed fighting with Tabatha, and they rush back. Deneve, Tabatha, Cynthia, Helen, Yuma, and Dietrich head to the Org HQs to look for Miria and get their revenge on the Org. 108-109



Miria was actually NOT fatally stabbed by the TAT nor sliced up by the Claymores, due to her own mercy of not killing the Claymores and the TATs, who still had their own emotions and thoughts still, and her wearing of her old Claymore uniform. The Claymores could not kill her and so they didn't. The BCs presumed WRONGLY that Miria was dead and left the "body-Miria" to be cleaned up by the Claymores. Also the Claymores either could tell the BCs that Miria was actually still alive, or that they were openly disobeying the BCs. Well, the Claymores must have taken Miria and hid her while Miria healed herself up somehow without the Org noticing. In the meantime, they must have chatted with each other, Miria and the Claymores, and Miria convinced them to join her in rebellion against the Organization). ch 113



upon hearing the BCs mentioning the Ghosts near the Lab to the north, Miria comes out of hiding and the Claymores wait to take her orders. ch 113



This seems to suggest... this was somehow all of Miria's plan... as Miria seems to be coordinating her rebellion in the Org HQs at the same time Tabatha is leading an attack on the Org's Lab to the north... a simultanous and synchronized attack on the Org HQs and the Lab by Miria and Tabatha...



It will take him less time to read the last 50 chapters again instead of that. Not to mention you are even more confusing.



In little words the Claymores that fought Miria and lost, realized she wasn't their enemy since she let them live and the organization was actually lying to them. When they woke up and saw Miria in a bad situation because of the mental games that number 10 Claymore was playing at her, they decided to save her by faking her death slashing her and making it seem like they killed her but avoiding all the crucial parts and probably not cutting too deep.



The 126 slashes wasn't about Miria but about some dead number 1 Claymore of the past that that mad scientist of the organization is trying to revive. But her example and story was probably told so we can get an idea about Miria living threw similar conditions since she got sliced a lot but no wound was lethal.