Fairy Tail Chapter 499 Discussion

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  • #90
Trentor11 said:
Rave>>>Fairy Tail



Reina/Musica>>Gray/Juvia



Also Reina is nothing like Juvia. She's similar to Ultear



Good chapter but come one we all know what's going to happen. It's cringworthy seeing tumblr everytime something happens to fairy tail characters even though they know nothing is permanent.. getting  over emotional like its the first time they read Fairy Tail lol



When it comes to angst, tragedy and turmoil, Gray is >>> all three of those characters combined. No contest.
 
  • #91
Kaanso said:


Oh yes because clearly Gray wasn't suffering at all.  Get that bias shit out of here. He's one of the must suffering characters in the manga due to how much tragic is layed on him.

Gray left Juvia in the rain suffering in despair to the point of growing ill, because he wanted to play super spies with erza. Still has not been called out on that. In fact everyone forgot that even happened because nooo gray can't have consequences. It made sense if he was actually growing evil from the demon power, (which he got from his dying corpse father because Juvia had to suffer emotional turmoil of killing the parent of somebody she loved), but no, yet again, Gray can't have consequences there too.



News flash, Gray didn't receive any powerup right now until it's confirmed. Right now his rage is showing MP related rippling on the portions of his body. That isn't a powerup. It's simply Gray being bloodlusted.

Nakama based emotions = power in ft.

This whole fight was all about powering up gray and that's exactly what happened, don't act like it did not.



Gray went from subpar low tier to Natsu's supposed equal with the tattoo. This is just gaining another power up to possibly match the one Natsu will get as END.
 
  • #92
Didn't expect both of them to stab themselves o.O

Don't think Juvia can actually create blood though, she just transferred her own blood to Gray.

Kinda hard to worry about Juvia though considering how things usually go sadly... not that I'd want her to die or something.

Aight, Invel's now fucked.
 
  • #93
Rex_Connor said:
ahsinam33 said:
I enjoyed the chapter but I'd like to point out something.

I know everyone's complaining about how the whole blood transfusion magic came out of nowhere but I have a bigger problem; how can a blood transfusion fix the fact that Gray had a HOLE in his stomach? He stabbed himself, didn't he? For some reason, in anime/manga, gaping holes don't seem to matter much.



Maybe the surrounding of water and ice closed the gap. Gray has shown to freeze his wounds. He had a gap in his battle with Ultear and lost blood suffering cuts and even splitted half of his own abdomen to create Blood make SLice dance formation..so it was sign of Gray being durable enough to move on. Same shit applies here. Increasement of MP helps.

I wish they'd shown Gray closing his wound or something. Whatever though; the feels in the chapter were great. That's why I didn't mention this before. I just hope that when Juvia is revived, we get to see Gray properly talk to her or hug her or anything really. This drama needs to have a proper conclusion.
 
  • #94
Rex_Connor said:
reiynii said:
@Rex_Connor I like you so much for what you are saying about Juvia-sama. That person replying to you is definitely a child and a troll and I wish upon them terrible things.



Thank you for supporting her <3



No problem dude. Even though I'm not a fan of her, I appreciate all she has done for my boy, and it's disgusting how she's getting hate on due to that troll child's lack of thinking tbh. I mean she's already dead for now, like fucking show some respect for her and more important, don't kick a person when she's down.  That's just uncool.





How am I a troll? For saying Juvia sucks and for saying that this scenario was forced, and that this drama is pointless?



You know what's disgusting? Juvia getting thirsty for Grey tho he's told her repeatedly to fuck off.
 
  • #95
frostmourn said:
Rex_Connor said:
frostmourn said:
Rex_Connor said:
frostmourn said:
Rex_Connor said:
frostmourn said:
Isterio said:
Given Hiro Mashima´s history with Fairy Tail it´s highly unlikely that Juvia will stay dead. Although the chapter is clearly  a reference to Musica and Reina, even down to the panel-work with the link between them, the beautiful page-spread panel with the male crying tears of sorrow to contrast the feelings of the female who willingly gave her life away for her beloved one.



I gave this chapter a 5/5, even if a resurrection happens, which I´m almost certain of, this particular chapter keeps it´s quality.



We received a lot of character development for Juvia & a little bit for Gray.

Both characters had uttered passion & love for their comrades, as well as an unwillingness to harm them. Both preferring to harm themselves for the well being of mentioned comrades. In the case of Gray even to the point of dying if necessary. Although his character development rises and falls with the reasons for the motivation to use Ice Shell against Deliora. Therefore his character development can be seen either as little or a lot. Furthermore he´s the one who received a power up which is development on it´s own.



Given all this input, it was a good chapter that´ll remain meaningful regardless of future developments.



Except Reina stayed dead :P



Hiro already pulled Musica and Reina with Gajeel's death, now it's getting stale.



You're right, Grey got -ve development now. All his development with valuing his own life went down the drain. He just spat on the sacrifice of Ul, Ultear and Silver, as well as the development that Natsu gave him. Fuck, Grey was in my top 10 FT characters, not anymore after this



Lol, he didn't spat on any sacrifice those characters made for Gray. They would've been proud of Gray if they saw what he did for Juvia. Infact they would shed tears for him.  



He attempted to suicide because he would rather move on living with his girl than without her. This is simply what couples do. Infact Gajeel would've done the same damn thing.



Your hate on for Juvia is making you blind to that. This made me like Gray even more because he brought in something new to the table. Dropping him off your fav list is just retarded tbh



I'll talk about the chapter later but this is something that I had to reply to first.



No, they sacrificed so that Grey could live on.

Grey attempting to commit suicide means that he doesn't value his life anymore, which many people sacrificed to maintain, that's disrespect to them.



So if your lover dies, you've got to suicide too? BS. You've got to live for their sake and for the sake of other people who care about you, and for your own damn sake cause you live only once. And like I said, this is pure disrespect to all the people who sacrificed their life so that Grey could live. Take you twisted philosophy outta here. And no, this has got nothing to do with Juvia, I'm talking about Grey not Juvia here.



If anything,  major part of his charcter development was realizing that his life is precious and he should NEVER let it go, and protect it at all costs.



By the way, Grey was always rejecting her thirsty obsessive ASS time and time again, this ship is forced AF.



It means that Gray cares more about Juvia's well being than his own life. That's the sign of a true gentleman. and you're kind of forgetting the fact that Gray isn't fully control of his body considering Ice Lock.



Juvia is a source of Gray's happiness, and it was only Ul that gave up her life (

Silver was already dead.), and you know why? for Gray to be happy. Since Juvia is Gray's source of happiness, it would make sense to take away the life if there is no happiness.



Gray is not a fucking emotionless robot. That he can live on with every girl and precious family member associated with him dying all around him and smile after that.  I mean he was this mentally strong to still live on before. Juvia's the last straw.



I mean would it make sense for Gray's character to kill Juvia? and be fine with it? Think about it for a fucking second.



Last panel reminded me of how badass Gray is. Fucking boss standing there not giving a shit with a open wound on his lower abdomen, about to kick some ass.



So, out of all the people currently alive in the FT verse only Juvia cares about him?



What about the rest of the member of FT, they dont't care about him or wont be sad if he dies?



What about the lesson he got from Natsu in Galuna arc?



What about Ultear who gave up her life?



What about UL?



HE can have happiness ONLY with Juvia? BS. Multiple people cares and loves him with all their heart, they have fun and share emotions together



Grey can't value his life after the MAJORITY of his development involved in teaching him NOT to throw away his life, and his life is precious AF?



Think for a fucking second before you come up with any more fodder arguments.





Are you daft? Where did I say that only Juvia cares about him. Every one does, you don't seem to understand that Juvia has a very special connection and deepness to his heart. It was only Juvia that Gray was willing to share his feelings for her. How can you not see that?



Yes, they would be damn sad as fuck, but you can't seem to comprehend that Mashima is simply pushing Gruvia forward to a  point that Gray is willing to die if it means Juvia lives. That's called a sacrifice



The lesson he got is completely different considering given the situation he is fighting his potential loved one to the death in contrast to killing himself for revenge. Two different scenarios there.



Ultear gave up her life for everyone, and for time to be pushed back. It wasn't for Gray. She only thanked Gray for curing her darkness.



I already expanded on Ul here. Re-read next time you want to bitch as usual.

Juvia is a source of Gray's happiness, and it was only Ul that gave up her life (

Silver was already dead.), and you know why? for Gray to be happy. Since Juvia is Gray's source of happiness, it would make sense to take away the life if there is no happiness. Ul would definitely would be proud of him.



Think for a fucking second before you berate Juvia as usual and spout more nonsense along the way.



Grey ALWAYS kept rejecting Juvia, you're right Gruvia is PUSHED by Hiro down our throats. It's literally the most forced ship in FT



I mentioned Ul, Ultear and Silver cause none of what you said made no sense LMAO, you're spouting BS. My point still stands.



Juiva is source Grey's happiness? Damn you're making this too easy. Grey's happiness is the entire FT guild, not Juvia alone. Don't say Grey wasn't happy before Juvia forced her way into his life. You're dreaming too much just like the shipper girls, wake up. He was perfectly all right bickering with Natsu and playing with his guildmates.



So Grey would be sad FOREVER if Juvia died? GTFOH, he'll be back to normal in a few weeks at most LMFAO. Ohh my, if Juvia dies Grey will be sad forever with no hopes of happiness EVER in his life..........awwww.



Debunking your fodder arguments is just too damn easy, next time don't reply cause only BS and fantacies come outta your replies. Now hold this L and run



Gray ignored Juvia, never rejected her. Something that you can't seem to comprehend.



Lmao what are you barking this time? I debunked your argument with Ul.

Mentioned that Silver is dead so he didn't have a sacrifice and then responsed that Ultear risked her life for EVERYONE.



Oh and if you realize Silver's words, he said to Juvia to take care of Gray. That was Gray and Juvia's development together, dumb ass.



You're just baseless ranting without any coherence, rationality to your own arguments







Oh yes, Gray would so happy in this guild without Juvia. Someone who is always giving him company and being there with him side of side. You probably aren't even aware of that.



Pathetic use of sarcasm btw. You're probably not an adult, but if you were you would already understand that it's not easy for a male character to live on and move on living without his potential lover. Especially since he's lost so many people in his life.





You're just pissed off that Gray risked his body for Juvia's sake which is getting you all angsty. You probably wouldn't have a problem if Gray did this for Lucy or any non-Juvia character. Your hatred for Juvia is fucking embarrassing and I'm not even a fan of Juvia to begin with lol. Yeah Gray is happy bickering with Natsu you know when Juvia is actually live. Again, it went through your head.



Take the L? Lol. You're probably some pathetic YT poster. You have yet to even counter even one of my arguments and logic that is based within the manga. What fantasies? '-' The only thing you have shown is to fantasize about your wishes for Juvia to die lol. You're the definition of bias and lack of objectivity in your posts is amusing.
 
  • #96
Tiramisu said:
I'm so tempted to drop my score of Fairy Tail from 3 to 1 after reading this chapter.



Why is that, if you dont mind answering?
 
  • #97
4/5 chapter for me, could've been 5/5 if not for the asspulls,



Positives:

1.) Grey finally got rid of the stalker (if she's dead), I'm happy for him

2.) The most irrelevant character in the series whose 95% of the screentime is getting thirsty for Grey-SAMA has died (if she won't come back). This also has given a feel for the war, finally.

3.) Grey finally got serious, and looks badass AF, hopefully he'll get a good fight for at least 15 pages

4.) Invel's and Zeref's relation was good to know, they seem close.



Asspull no 1:

How TF did they resist the Ice Lock? They had to lose their conciousness and fight each other to the death without having any will of their own.



Asspull no 2:

Juvia learning Blood Transfusion magic even though she was "training" full time with Grey for 6 months and was just crying for the next 6 months like a pathetic bitch she is. When did she learn this without Grey's notice? BS



Fact no1: Invel loses in 5 panels next chapter.

Fact no2: Juvia comes back next chapter or within tops 5 chapters



Predictions on how the obsessive trash can (a.k.a Juvia) will come back:

1.) Eileen will pull Juvia out of Grey's body

2.) Larcade will pull Juvia's soul out of Grey's body

3.) Slutty plotdevice (Brandish) will come out of nowhere and heal an impossible injury of Juvia just like she asspulled her wy to save Mira

4.) Juvia never died in the first place due to the Tenrou Tree attached to the country which makes FT members immortal forever. Well fuck Eileen (shitty plot device) and her asspull spell
 
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