Fairy Tail Chapter 471 Discussion

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  • #34
Prediction: Laxus will get his dragon lacrima removed (possibly by force) thus removing the side effect and the lightning dragon lacrima from God Serena will be implanted in it's place.



Nice little setup if this is true.
 
  • #35
TheGrandSage23 said:
rapidcif said:
Honestly I think fanbases jump to conclusions WAY too early. I mean, people are talking about the spriggans being disappointing but last time I checked, only 2/12 have been defeated, and 1 by a ridicously OP non fairy tail member. I think i'll wait for some more Spriggan defeats before I cast judgement.



The Spriggans just aren't delivering the hype anymore. They haven't really done anything in awhile. I wouldn't have much of a problem it Hiro actually showed them more of a threat. Brandish was a complete letdown in terms of how her story was so easily rushed and only made to side with Fairy Tail since she was a fan favorite. DiMaria has done nothing but strip women of their clothing and get kicked in the face by Wendy of all people.. Azeel was decent but was defeated too early however his defeat did make sense and it had sone teamwork. Serena being killed by Acno was correct I mean it's freaking Acnologia but as big of a threat Serena was his presence REALLY short.



I was expecting an actual war with different guilds fighting the Spriggans. We have the setup but that's it. I mean these are the Spriggan 12.. Hiro hyped them up to be the most powerful threat yet however I felt more hyped and more interest when Fairy Tail battled the Demon Gates. Because it was a hard fought back n forth battle. The demons were pushing Fairy Tail to its limits and desperation and keep in mind the demons were considered rejects by Zeref.



Now none of that is happening. Hell Dimaria pretty much let Kagura go back and regathering forces and guess who's with her now? Erza. This won't end well for the Spriggans. It's not the fact Acnologia is stealing the thunder away but the Spriggans since Azeel haven't done anything. Great designs and decent powers but unfortunately Hiro isn't using it any of that potential



I understand what you're saying, I really do. But i feel like you are exactly proving my point.



You are making these statements in the midst of the story's development. For example, you say the Spriggans haven't done anything, but that's because we aren't even at the point in the story where they can do anything -the war is still in it's developmental stage. Azeel was sort of an appetizer, and Serena was killed off by acnologia. Besides those 2, we haven't even begun to taste the extent of the Spriggan's abilities. Of course, regarding this, you can make the complaint that Hiro is taking too long "setting things up", which would be a legitimate claim. But this is distinctly different from your criticism of the development of these characters or the arc itself, when said development hasn't advanced much past its initial stage. It's akin to judging a 10 chapter book after reading the first 2 chapters. I think the crux of the problem is that we only get one chapter a week, and we want action, or our respective senses of satisfaction. And when we don't get what we want to see, we feel somewhat disappointed. But in fact, each chapter is but a puzzle piece of a the holistic story that is this arc; a portion of the whole should judged in light of the entire context, which we don't have. But the problem with a lot of fans is that they extend their weekly reactions to the entire work itself, and these feelings do not change despite redeeming developments that occur later, so they gradually develop into a type of distorted opinion(not saying this is you, just explaining my point). For example, you could say that Hiro is taking too long "setting things up", but you can't make a definitive conclusion on this until you see what he is setting up for. Similarly, you say Tartaros pushed FT while the Spriggans did not, but actually we aren't even at the point in the story where FT can be pushed or not-pushed. The idea is that you want to see it happen now whilst in a state where you have to wait a week for 20 pages of possible development and satifisfaction, but this is impossible. Not saying the work is perfect and flawless; my point is criticisms should be made in the right context.
 
  • #36
A character with 8 dragon slaying magics, Ishgar's strongest mage is important enough for the story, he has plenty of ways to save him without even calling it an asspull
 
  • #37
hahaha too bad for god serena...

juvia is always prepared lol. zzz.another week to wait..
 
  • #38
So yeah we didn't really get a confirmation if God Serena is actually dead. I also think he is, just would have been nice to get a 100% confirmation (now watch him suddenly reappear 20 chapters from now). Anyway I also agree that the Spriggan 12 have lost some of their hype, since the focus of the reader is now on where Acnologia is going to appear again and who is going to fight him next. I can imagine one of the Spriggan not paying attention or thinking they can take him on and then getting killed in the end.



I really hope we see some actual fighting from DiMaria in the next chapter. I really like her (not just because of her name) and would love to see a badass battle between her and Erza or Kagura. I would like if it was just a 1 vs. 1, preferrably Kagura, since we haven't actually seen her fighting a big fight in quite a while.



Laxus vs. Wahl is gonna be interesting. I hope Mashima doesn't go the obvious route with Laxus being on the verge of winning and then his illness kicks in and he loses. I guess Gray or someone else will come to his rescue. Or we really have a major death in FT. It seems unlikely, but I guess it's not impossible.
 
  • #39
I still love Dimaria. That stripping habit for other girls, it feels like it's a superiority. Hoping someone will die on the dimaria battle. I like how she will really kill the healers. Because this is a war, and wounded mages need them. Please die Cheria-chan~



And Ajeel may comeback anytime.
 
  • #40
Honestly I think fanbases jump to conclusions WAY too early. I mean, people are talking about the spriggans being disappointing but last time I checked, only 2/12 have been defeated, and 1 by a ridicously OP non fairy tail member. I think i'll wait for some more Spriggan defeats before I cast judgement.
 
  • #41
ViciLockhart said:
I hope Hiro did not forget Kagura magic and make her use it for a third time ;0...



samisnotok said:
Ok so one problem i have with this is that it has been explicitly stated that Dimaria is a very seasoned war veteran. She knows what shes doing. I don't think she does this just to get a rise out of it. I think she does it to degrade the opponent and embarrass them i.e. lowering their guard and making them an easier target. Dimaria does this for a reason.



Well Dimaria action prove that she doesn't even have experencie of a foot soldier.. well let's see what's better from the point of war "humiliate" enemy to lower guard break morale of few units ? or kill them .. i think that second option is more suited in any situation because kiling of Kagura for example will decrease morale of MH and LS more than just strip them



I'm fairly certain it also has to do with Dimaria's gross amount of overconfidence. With Erza, Gray, Laxus, Wendy, Juvia and all of Mermaid Heel and Lamia Scale sans Jura even with 3 Spriggans I doubt this is going to turn out well for them. Knowing Mashima he won't kill off Erza, Gray or Wendy.
 
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