Fairy Tail Chapter 424 Discussion
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Darklight0303 said:
Behemoth11 said:
But why would Silver sacrifice his own son?
Silver sure didn't have that big of a mark on him. I think Gray really has lost control of it
1. Silver had a lot of clothes! So its impossible to say if he had this marks. Lol
2. Why saying he lost control of his powers? Maybe its Demon Force. who knows.
I bet Gray its a SPY. He dint wanted to grab Juvia in this dangerous path. Iam sure Gray could wipe this Dark Guild by himself.
Silver lost a ton of his clothes during the fight with Gray or did you forget that? Again the mark was nowhere near that big. I wonder why it's so hard to accept that yes he was swallowed up by the power he was not meant to have
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This was depressing, overall. Both this and newest FT Zero chapter that came out today, were some of the darker stuff Mashima did since RAVE. Overall RAVE vibes continue staying strong with this arc and I can't decide whether Gray's role will be that Musica or Sieg. Might he turn into a demon from his Demon slayer powers just like Dragon Slayers might turn into Dragons? After all he did not have someone generating antibodies.
If the turning into thing is true for all three(Demons, Gods, Dragons), then it makes sense why there would be God Slayer Magic - possibly to create "successors" to whoever "gods" may be(still thinking it refers to the Gods of Ishval, the four strongest beings in the continent)
Juvia's story and even her stalker-delusions were so depressing :[
And with the time when Frosch is supposed to die drawing near...this is going to be a shitfest of depression of MASSIVE proportions....
Darklight0303 said:
Behemoth11 said:
But why would Silver sacrifice his own son?
Silver sure didn't have that big of a mark on him. I think Gray really has lost control of it
^This
Silver trained for years most likely to master it
And as I brought up before - If Dragon Slayers have threat to become a dragon, could Demon Slayers become demons?
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Either way, if he is in fact related to Frosch's potential death, then things are getting really interesting.
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Darklight0303 said:
Z4k said:
Lol if Gray really was evil then why would he leave Juvia unharmed? Come on its not that hard to figure out what he's doing.
He left before he was taken over completely most likely. Plus Juvia is not really a threat to whatever his new evil side wants to do. Demons see humans as less than animals. YOu can try finding another excuse if you want. But right now there's plenty more supporting that he's lost control of his power and its warped him.
Read the chapter again.
When the marks appeared on his body it was as if Gray was expecting it to happen. That's when he started going out alone but still returned. Now what would be the point of returning to Juvia after his secret trips if demons see humans as less than animals? Come on put 2 and 2 together. Its obvious Gray didn't want to put Juvia in danger. And this isn't an excuse because it was never implied before that the demon powers of Gray would take over his body. It never happened in finale of Tartarus arc even when he was in extreme conditions so there's no point for it to happen now.
Expecting it. He looked plenty surprised to me. Again the transformation would not be instantanenous. Heck he might have even been blacking out whenever he left Juvia until he no longer woke up.
And again EXPLAIN why the demon mark is spread over his body much more than Silver who has had that power for years. He's lost himself to the power. End of story.
Actually there is because he's been using them for a year. Whatever. You cling on to your vain hope
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Z4k said:
Darklight0303 said:
1: did you completely forget the reason why the first and third gen slayers had dragons in them? To prevent dragonification by creating antibodies. Overuse of one Slayer magic turns the user into the entity that it's designed to combat. There's no reason why DEMON slayer magic is exempt to that rule. If anything Demon related magic corrupting users is even more natural.
You see right there you're just assuming things just to prove your point. There's no evidence of that ever stated in the manga. In fact if what you say is true, then what about Chelia and all the other god slayers? Are you going to assume they have gods inside them too?
We don't know if the God Slayers were trained by Gods. My guess: They weren't. Why?
Considering that only the Dragons Slayers of the 1st and 3rd generation needed Antibodies to stop them turning into a Dragon, Slayer Magic (or Lost Magic if we take Azuma into account) granted to a mage by implanting a Lacrima into his or her body (such as 2nd generation Dragon Slayers) won't show that kind of a backlash.
That means: If they were given a God Lacrima (just a theory) they won't turn into the entity their magic is made to slay. The again: We don't know for sure.
Either way, I honestly go with Darklight in this.
There may be no clue thus far for the Devil Slayer Magic turning Gray evil. But there is no clue for Gray being a spy as well (funny fact: we are all assuming. Up to now, that is all we can do. So would you please stop you're little fight against Darklight? He ist just assuming what COULD happen, just as everybody else is.)
But if Gray really turned evil... that woud be a way better plotline with way more possibilities of what could happen.
EDIT: Ok.... I just read that Chelia learned God Slayer magic from a book. o.o
Well... there goes my theory with the Lacrima...
Either way, God Slayers turning into Gods ALSO makes sense if they are intended to be the successors of whoever the "gods" are ( I still think God Slaying magic originated with Four Gods of Ishval)
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CookingPriest said:
Suno_Kaji said:
Z4k said:
Darklight0303 said:
1: did you completely forget the reason why the first and third gen slayers had dragons in them? To prevent dragonification by creating antibodies. Overuse of one Slayer magic turns the user into the entity that it's designed to combat. There's no reason why DEMON slayer magic is exempt to that rule. If anything Demon related magic corrupting users is even more natural.
You see right there you're just assuming things just to prove your point. There's no evidence of that ever stated in the manga. In fact if what you say is true, then what about Chelia and all the other god slayers? Are you going to assume they have gods inside them too?
We don't know if the God Slayers were trained by Gods. My guess: They weren't. Why?
Considering that only the Dragons Slayers of the 1st and 3rd generation needed Antibodies to stop them turning into a Dragon, Slayer Magic (or Lost Magic if we take Azuma into account) granted to a mage by implanting a Lacrima into his or her body (such as 2nd generation Dragon Slayers) won't show that kind of a backlash.
That means: If they were given a God Lacrima (just a theory) they won't turn into the entity their magic is made to slay. The again: We don't know for sure.
Either way, I honestly go with Darklight in this.
There may be no clue thus far for the Devil Slayer Magic turning Gray evil. But there is no clue for Gray being a spy as well (funny fact: we are all assuming. Up to now, that is all we can do. So would you please stop you're little fight against Darklight? He ist just assuming what COULD happen, just as everybody else is.)
But if Gray really turned evil... that woud be a way better plotline with way more possibilities of what could happen.
EDIT: Ok.... I just read that Chelia learned God Slayer magic from a book. o.o
Well... there goes my theory with the Lacrima...
Either way, God Slayers turning into Gods ALSO makes sense if they are intended to be the successors of whoever the "gods" are ( I still think God Slaying magic originated with Four Gods of Ishval)
Speaking of those guys, I AM STILL WAITING FOR THEM TO SHOW UP! Well Warrod did but the REST of them
Yep. Warrod is the "newest" member and he is hundred+ year old(and oh look Warrod's tree magic he learned from
Zeref turned him into a tree-person). Meaning the rest of them are older than even Mavis.
They look powerful as fuck.
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Time will tell. But on the other hand we just had one under cover plotline with Silver and that was the arc before this one. I doubt Mashima would recycle that idea so soon. Make that 2. After all there was the reveal about Doranbolt.
Dimitrije1606 said:
Seriously though, why is it every time I see an good character becoming evil (and by proxy more badass) they have their hair pulled backwards (remember Aizen?)
It about symbolism. Going against the grain.
It's like when Wendy cut her hair to symbolise her strength and will of determination.
Also you could link it to the view of Japanese people and the influence of punk and rebellion of youth. Yet it may just be coincidence and you are only noticing the ones that do and not the ones that don't.
On a different but not completely unrelated note, I love how Natsu looks more badass with his floppy hair, when he came back with long hair and wet like in this chapter.
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trump54 said:
I just want to see gray whip natsu ass and let him know that hes not as strong as he thinks he is
Natsu always think he can crush gray
You're setting yourself up for nothing but disappointment. Natsu is meant to kill Acnologia and Zeref. Gray is not even a blip on the radar compared to those guys. People that Natsu left to train to defeat to begin with.
And if Gray really has gone dark side, Natsu will crush Gray to bring him back. Or leave him beat up enough for Juvia to work her one true magic on him. Gray will always be second fiddle in this series. Or third since there's Erza....or fourth since there's Laxus....or fifth since there's Jellal...or sixth since there's Gajeel....or seventh since there's Wendy who is already ludicrously strong for her age and can only get stronger.
Well it cant be natsu to beat him if he is the END demon. Its gonna be a good fight. Acnologia will probably be killed my zeref at the last minute to rob Natsu of the victory.
