Fairy Tail Chapter 412 Discussion

Darklight0303 said:
Oneill said:
I really don't think that Natsu is END or will be. But i guess we will find out.



There are a lot of hints pointing to that conclusion and one was even given today by the fact that Igneel was the ONLY dragon nesting inside his Slayer



Awesome_G said:
Didn't expect to see Igneel to do so well against Acnologia. But it was awesome to see the dragons return.



Doing well is arguable. Igneel looks pretty worn and he's bleeding quite a bit



If it is natsu.... How much you wanna bet the romance card will be pulled and Lucy will have a big part of snapping him out of it ala "true love power"



And 20 dollars on igneel "dying" to cause natsu to snap

hello09 said:
Darklight,could you keep your Gray issues to yourself?Not only is it's unsightly and pathetic,but it also derails discussions. Gray probably still has it,until Mashima says so and that's that.



Well,face did activate,only if partially.I wonder if some people will really lose their magic...or if they will recover it later.



Oh well,lumen historie ended up being useless...something's off here.I doubt Mashima would introduce it just for it to be a dud.He did this to buy himself some chapters,he really is keeping it in the hat.



Still,this will buy him  one more month at most.If fairy tail zero is seven/eight chapters at most,then Mashima is waiting for it to end in order to explain what Lumen historie is.



Sting and Rogue's dragons are still alive.Edo tensei,lol?Or did Sting and Rogue fail to even mercy kill them?Just kidding with the last question. I am really curious to seeing them meet again with their dragons.



Igneel used fate's detonation,which probably weakened Acnologia since he was a human and a mage,to wipe the floor with him.Oohhh,he is gonna be mad that a "miserable" dragon defeated him.



How convenient.Natsu was probably going to attack Gray in order to stop him from destroying E.N.D's book.That wouldn't end well,lol.Fortunately Igneel is there to stop Gray from doing it.



a lot of questions xD



Gray has demon slayer spells. he just turned off

Aiko_Hiroshi said:
Darklight0303 said:
Aiko_Hiroshi said:
Darklight0303 said:
Aiko_Hiroshi said:
Darklight0303 said:
CookingPriest said:
there's absolutely  nosigns of her power being temporary.



Everyone else got perma-power up and Lucy really needs her.



IF anythng, she will end up sacrificing all keys eventually.



That goes against her very character. Sacrificing her friends for power? That's insane. She only did it with Aquarius because there was no other choice. There's no way she will do it again. And no no one else has got a confirmed permanent poiwer up



If Fai agrees with me than my theory isn't so crazy. It's not about what Lucy wants, its what she is going to be forced to do. It might destroy her by the end of the story, but its needed for drama and plot progression.



This is not Akame ga kill. This is the series Mashima started out to rehabilitate himself after the dark turns Rave Master took.  =_= Breaking Lucy to that degree would be horrendously out of character and again she sacrificed ONE key to summon the king. ONCE. The tradeoff is not worth it and what we've seen of her so called powerup with Aquarius CERTAINLY does not justify the cost. Again. Lucy and Yukino are all about their bonds with their beloved spirits. Destroying that bond for the name of power is going far too far. That is not how things are done in Fairy Tail world. Not on the protagonist side. Don't be surprised when your pointlessly dark theories come crashing down in smouldering ruins.



In fact it was not breaking the key that gave her Aquarius' power. It was the SPIRIT KING. You seriously believe he'll keep repeating that every time if she starts spam breaking her keys for power? Seriously? Try and think before you type next time.



Yeah I'm totally done trying to discuss anything with you. You're a jerk that will attack others for having a different opinion. I can see why you're not friendly with anyone in here.



Uhuh whatever. You know what I am saying is true. The spirit king would have to give her the magic of the broken keys each time she breaks one and this is fact because once again that temporary boost she got from Aquarius was a gift from the KING. Not a natural consequence of breaking the key.



Breaking the key only summons the king. It doesn't give power. The power was a gift from the King because he cares for Lucy enough to call her Old Friend each time. End of debate.



No its not the end of the debate. I believe this will be a new theme with Lucy, that she will end up having to give up more keys in the future. Its a concept that was introduced and I don't think it will only be used once. And yes, The Celestial Spirit King transferred Aquarius' power to Lucy, what of it? What's stopping him from doing it with more spirits?



I don't give two shits what you think, you're in the minority opinion in this thread. Cooking Priest/Fai has predicted many things in Fairy Tail, including the 7 time skip (so he's better at guessing than anyone else on MAL) and he agrees with my theory. I don't care what you believe, just go on believing it. You won't change my mind about what I believe, so stop being a dick.



A new theme? A theme of sacrificing those precious friends she never saw as tools only for the sake of power? Do you even listen to yourself? The king favors LUcy because of her strong bond with the spirits because of how she treats them. In the out of character eventuality that she starts breaking them for power you can be sure that affection would dry up real quick. You literally expect the king to show up 9 more times just to give Lucy the power of her keys. The fact that you don't see how ridiculous of a notion that is, speaks volumes.



Have fun being proven wrong. Oh you want to compare who predicted stuff. Okay then. lets me start.



I predicted it would be future Lucy back at the start of the GMG



I predicted that the Dragons would come from the gate and the parallel future theory.



If Natsu turns out to be END then I predicted that as well



If Gray doesn't keep his power up, I predicted that as well same for Lucy.



You just prefer Fai's words because they agree with you. That's all there is to it. That doesn't give your theory any more validity. That's hardly this mythical majority you like to tout. The only theory you do have majority in is the Gray's power one. And even then that doesn't mean much if Mashima will stick to the trend regarding tattoo based powers. (Besides it's known how obnoxiously active the Gray fanbase is around these parts.)  Not with Lucy breaking more keys. Kind of getting your sheep there mixed up don't you think?  I have presented you the cold solid facts why your theory doesn't work with the kind of character Lucy is or the kind of story Fairy Tail is.

Darklight0303 said:
Z4k said:
Yeah Acnologia is going to pull something off next chapter.



Or END's awakening gives Acnologia the opening he needs to get out of there or kill Igneel

True. I don't know anyone else but Igneel has a huge death flag over him.

Darklight0303 said:


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Aaand the devil slayer tattoo is gone! So celebrations all around.







Nope, it's not gone, just deactivated for now. Look back at chapter 398 specifically. Gray turns the power on and off whenever he needs to.

Z4k said:
Why am I sensing a Gray vs Natsu that might happen pretty soon? I'm pretty sure END will activate if Natsu touches it or something so Gray not giving it to him was a wise idea.



Igneel told him to get it though. Doubt he would if just touching it would set it off. Now opening or DESTROYING it is more likely to be a bad idea since those were two options Igneel expressly forbid Natsu. Destroying a seal item is RARELY a good idea in most stories since it usually releases what was sealed >_>

Darklight0303 said:
CookingPriest said:
Darklight0303 said:
Aiko_Hiroshi said:
Dark_Messiah said:
Gray Uchiha vs Natsu Uzumaki for a moment right there.. another dragons appearing, Igneel better explain everything..

Darklight0303 said:


Aaand the devil slayer tattoo is gone! So celebrations all around.

Cheers!!!



It's not gone...for the last time it's just deactivated for now. Look back at chapter 398 specifically. Gray turns the power on and off whenever he needs to.



Why deactivate it when he's about to destroy END? Makes no sense. And once again TATTOO POWERS ARE NEVER PERMANENT in Fairy Tail. This has been the precedent thus far.



A much as I want that to be true, Lucy still had the tattoos and obviously will still have that power.



Sadly Gray's asspull will stay.



On bright side, Gray will be fodderized by End so rejoice.



Huh? Lucy lost her tattoo ages ago @@



And yeah that's true. That's some consolation



With Lucy its probably the same thing as Gray, the tattoo just deactivates when not in use. Lucy is the most deserving of a powerup since she sacrificed something to gain it, I don't see why she would lose said power up after losing one of her celestial spirits for good.

Oh yes the other dragons have shown up. This is going to be good.