Fairy Tail Chapter 407 Discussion

Darklight0303 said:
Theusis3 said:
Darklight0303 said:


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                        Chapter is out early as expected.



Ignoring the end of the chapter, a pretty solid chapter.



Also chances of Natsu being END have just gone THROUGH the roof



True that. With Igneel warning Natsu not to open the book. And previously how Zeref said that Natsu would be the one to defeat him. It certainly looks like Natsu is or is going to be END. Well time to see how this manga will end.



It's not ending. THere's still a few loose ends to tie up plus Mashima said he wants to get to the 10 year aniversary.



Other parts of the chapter that were very interesting. Makarov's determination to keep Lumen Histoire Existence a secret even at the cost of erasing EVERYONE's memories of it with Doranbalt's help.



murarock said:
i will not say that it goes to the point of "hate" but, i disliked a little  the fact of gray getting to powerful this way, not that i dislike the char it's just humm.... don't know how to say it "the way he earned the power is lacking some thing"? well anyway nice chapter



Exactly. My only hope now is that this undeserved buff is only temporary like say Fairy Glitter was for Cana.



Yes. Natsu is pretty much the End....and I too hope that this is temporary puff....or then Gray will get some serious consequences/Side effects for using Devil Slaying so he will not use it every time.



Tough he had to get something like that to catch up Natsu and Gajeel...Lighting-Fire Dragon Mode  and Iron-Shadow Dragon Mode anyone? we could say that those 2 were also pretty unfair power-ups...

Oneill said:
Darklight0303 said:
Oneill said:
WHy is everyone obsessed with Natsu becoming END? There is no clue what will happen. My best bet is what Mard said. END is in the book. And now we know why he couldn't release him before, why he needed Face for it. But that doesn't mean Natsu is End.



You really need it to be spelled out huh?



Okay let me put it in big bold letters for you.



Exhibit A: END is a fire demon that Igneel, the KING of fire Dragons was unable to defeat in battle.



Exhibit B: END and all of the Demons of Zeref were made to kill Zeref.



Exhibit C: Back on Tenrou, Zeref said the Following about Natsu: "You've grown, Natsu" "Natsu is the only one who can Destroy me." "Not yet. Not Yet. Natsu still can't destroy me"



Exhibit D: Only Natsu or END will be able to meet with Zeref.





And i think there is more to it than that.

And if Zeref want to die, why is he "hoping" that Natsu will be the one not END.

Yes, i remember all of that. But we don't know what happened in the past 400 years with Zeref.



-Exhibit A:  Jsut because Igneel is the king of fire dragons, that doesn't mean, END the strongest demon is weaker than him.

My speculation is, 400 years ago, during their battle, Igneel almost died. And someone sealed END away in the book.



Dragons are immune to magic other than dragon slayer plus Igneel would eat fire magic and turn it into his own power. I never said END was weaker than Igneel. However Igneel couldn't defeat him in a straight up fight. So he sealed and SPLIT END. The character and full power of END went into the book. The body, the blank slate that was left behind was taken in by Igneel who raised it into who Natsu is now. There's MY theory

If they want to kill Zeref (both mages and demons) why don't they all just team up and attack the dude, y0lo.



Also power level scale all fucked up right now.

Behemoth11 said:
Wow...good history lesson, but I'm sure he can't or lets say he won't erase the memories of the entire guild. Acnologia will kill Igneel, Natsu will get his powers like Silver did it and they will kick some asses together.

Yep I can see it happening.

hello09 said:
Honestly,this is getting off topic.This is about the chapter,not about X or Y.



Although...I do have to wonder...why does Lucy share the role of main protagonist with Natsu?Well,to me,it seems that anyone with the 12 keys would suffice.Of course,this is quite a shallow perception,which is why there is more to this.We will soon get the reason for Natsu being the protagonist...especially if he is E.N.D and destined to kill the immortal Zeref and the "invincible" Acnologia...



Lucy is badass nuff said

Darklight0303 said:
Oneill said:
Darklight0303 said:
Oneill said:
WHy is everyone obsessed with Natsu becoming END? There is no clue what will happen. My best bet is what Mard said. END is in the book. And now we know why he couldn't release him before, why he needed Face for it. But that doesn't mean Natsu is End.



You really need it to be spelled out huh?



Okay let me put it in big bold letters for you.



Exhibit A: END is a fire demon that Igneel, the KING of fire Dragons was unable to defeat in battle.



Exhibit B: END and all of the Demons of Zeref were made to kill Zeref.



Exhibit C: Back on Tenrou, Zeref said the Following about Natsu: "You've grown, Natsu" "Natsu is the only one who can Destroy me." "Not yet. Not Yet. Natsu still can't destroy me"



Exhibit D: Only Natsu or END will be able to meet with Zeref.





And i think there is more to it than that.

And if Zeref want to die, why is he "hoping" that Natsu will be the one not END.

Yes, i remember all of that. But we don't know what happened in the past 400 years with Zeref.



-Exhibit A:  Jsut because Igneel is the king of fire dragons, that doesn't mean, END the strongest demon is weaker than him.

My speculation is, 400 years ago, during their battle, Igneel almost died. And someone sealed END away in the book.



Dragons are immune to magic other than dragon slayer plus Igneel would eat fire magic and turn it into his own power. I never said END was weaker than Igneel. However Igneel couldn't defeat him in a straight up fight. So he sealed and SPLIT END. The character and full power of END went into the book. The body, the blank slate that was left behind was taken in by Igneel who raised it into who Natsu is now. There's MY theory





I get your theory. What i don't get, if END is so bad thing, why didn't Igneel put the book away somewhere safe, where no one can find it?

And other than that, Igneel could have killed the blank body. So that's why i say it: There is more to it than that. And i assume we will find out during the next 2 chapters.

Janome said:
Dimitrije1606 said:
Darklight0303 said:
Dimitrije1606 said:
There is one thing I don't follow. Is it confirmed that Natsu will be END? Or is it a prediction?



It's very likely considering the clues present so far

Yeah, I followed some posts, but I thought Mashima had actually announced something. Though  you guys might be just right, there is no way he would portray protagonist of the story in such weak light. He will get some power up, that is for damn sure.Agreed, though yeah it seems at this point he has to wait for this fight between Gray and Marde, because after that battle, it's the real deal and shit is about to go down. So many possible speculations, Marde could awaken END right before he is defeated :o



Honestly the fact that he put the book down will likely be how END awakens. Since technically Natsu's quest is still to get that book away from the guy. But in the fighting that book can certainly fall open a lot easier than it would have if Marde was still holding it. Either way the book will likely open and that will be the signal for the next stage.

Dimitrije1606 said:
Darklight0303 said:
Dimitrije1606 said:
There is one thing I don't follow. Is it confirmed that Natsu will be END? Or is it a prediction?



It's very likely considering the clues present so far

Yeah, I followed some posts, but I thought Mashima had actually announced something. Though  you guys might be just right, there is no way he would portray protagonist of the story in such weak light. He will get some power up, that is for damn sure.



Oh definitely. After he defeats his original nature as END most likely.