Fairy Tail Chapter 303 Discussion

In terms of raw magical power yeah I would put Makarov over Gildarts, I was just stating that I wouldn't bet on anyone against gildarts. Not even makarov would be a sure bet imo. Some chara's powers are better suited to fight certain people, like what gash said, gildarts magic>juras.

I said Gildartz because Makarov himself said so when seein Jura doing the "rumbling mt. fuji" attack on that thing where Cana won



EDIT: Also, being an Wizard saint is a title to be reckoned with. Although to be honest Mashima is like Oda in this perspective, anyone can beat anyone and we rly can't put a clear strength scale. I mean that same Jellal lost to Natsu, while Ultear lost to Grey, despite both of them having the same title.

So.. no explanation as to why Rogue and Sting are still in ST and what happened to their master?

kiDnameDSkia said:
^ ok, well said. Ofc we have to consider ones magic specialty, and Crash is a technique that can beat everyone.



Also, i never said Jura being like Makarov, I guess I said it too plain so it got misinterpreted, sry for that.



Well, I don't have the wil to search for it, but I believe it was stated in the beginning that both of them were Wizard saints (I mean Jellal and Ultear), you can check it up, again my mistake if it turns out it's not like that.



I guess I meant magic strength not a irl 1on1 between them. It's clear that Jura's rockiron magic would just be split into pieces with crash, but I guess Jura also has other techniques as a WS, and we saw that rumbling fuji atk wasn't a mere physical ability. Also, Jellal was considered stronger 7 years ago then Jura.



Regarding Natsu and dragonforce, it's not so subjective if you think about Sting and Rogue dragonforce. It's not that unbeatable a technique. A WS should've been able to annihilate it.



I'm not sure to whom exactly you were responding with each sentence but nevermind I'll try.

-I'm not entirely sure how crash works. We know that it shatters things, meaning it can turn anything solid to dust but what about the rest like liquid,gas, energy based magic(like Natsu's fire or Juvia's water). So I'm not sure if it can beat anyone

-I think that Jura as he is now he is incredibly close to Makarov, maybe not equal but not useless in front of him. He IS considered after all the strongest mage in the Daimato.

-Based on FT-wiki: confirmed SW:

Makarov Dreyar        Fairy Tail                Active

Jura Neekis                Lamia Scale        Active

Siegrain                       Magic Council        Removed

Jose Porla               Phantom Lord   Removed

-In my modest opinion I think that Jellal stands higher than Gildarts and Jura.

-Still, Dragon Force Natsu managed to beat Jellal and later beat Zero. What I said is this:

"Don't you think that it's a little too subjective to assume that since once Natsu> Jelal happened to assume that also Gildarts>Jellal?" So in a way, Dragon Force Natsu would beat Gildarts as well. I don't know if other DSs have the same potential by default(or at least sth similar).

Psajdak said:
I´m seriously tired of Natsu.



Well. The whole manga focuses mostly on him. He's an integral part of the story, so if you're getting tired of him, you're getting tired of FT altogether.

kiDnameDSkia said:
Jura should be Gildarts lvl as stated, or atleast be able to compete with him.

Kagura should be atleast Erza lvl and give Erza a hard time...as for Minerva, well. I rly can't see where she's standing as we didn't see her fight with a serious opponent yet



Actually no. Jura said he's the weakest of the 10 saints and he's under Makarov.

I have to admit that I lost interest to this arc... now that Natsu isn't part of the main team. The tournament isn't the highlight anymore... it is about saving Lucy.



Though, Natsu and Wendy teaming up with Mirajane? What an odd combination.

Can't wait to see what will happen.

Gods I love the fact that Lector actually seems dead. Genma most likely is too and  saberooth are covering the fact up



Thats all i can say otherwise it was standard setup chapter.