Skip Beat! Chapter 195 Discussion

  • #34
Reading: omg, omg, fan service, omg, great! At the end: ok, now, Nakamura-sensei it's your move. As always, shatter my hopes and somehow put out this sexual tension between them...
 
  • #36
Han-yuu said:
EfiChan said:
It's not true that she was totally cook when she entered the bath. She entered there panicking, being scared about what the hell happens to Ren (He took his time, and she was affraid he fell asleep). After that, she behaved in front normally though she felt like dying. Later she tried to convice herself she didn't and she's still pure. In the end, she decided regreting not seeing the whole so she will be able to make Ren's doll proparly. Totally not like her., but she's known for the fact she wants the dolls perfect (I remember it really good, cause I read millions times. There's nothing more fun that reading her Monologe out loud).



Sorry, I can't believe it will really work completely. Maybe for a little while, but if everthing is going to be solved just because of it... It's going to pathetic. All was needed is an act of stupid girl? come on, the writer has to put something more deep, otherwise it's meaning. And she still didn't really understood how Kuon's darkness started to rise, though she gives hints.



Sorry, I can't believe it will really work completely. Maybe for a little while, but if everthing is going to be solved just because of it... It's going to pathetic. All was needed is an act of stupid girl? come on, the writer has to put something more deep, otherwise it's meaning. And she still didn't really understood how Kuon's darkness started to rise, though she gives hints.

I was not referring to first time but second time. When director was there and she entered in the bath without any care in the world that even he was so shocked. As far as i remember she was not panicking neither there was any monologue.



About the darkness. I actually don't think about it too much. It just seems to me a forced sad past which is common in most shounen/shoujo stuff, unless author reveals what exactly happened and he does have a very good reason to think like that. Then i would say "yes, it need more than just a stupid act".. That past story in bits is not helping for me and i would rather want him to get over it as soon as possible.



2nd time? When was there a 2nd time?
 
  • #38
readergurl6 said:
So I agree with most everyone that the highlight of this chapter was the fan service and Kyoko's actions did seam to come out of left field but after a second reading I think i get what happened.



In the last chapter she tried to shock him out of his mood by acting aggressive because it's worked before.  



While trying to get his attention, Kyoko realized that Ren has emotional problems similar to her own that allow him to act as Cain Heel since she did similar things (crying, being possessiveness and attacking)  when she acted as the angel in sho's PV.



there is some free floating text that i cant quite figure out. it's "Don't fall"... "to the bottom" ..."with me"..."in someone other than you"  I'm not sure if that's Kyoko telling Ren no to give into hated like she did, or if it's Kuron telling Kyoko that she can still be redeemed if she leaves him alone or if one of them is telling the other not to get emotionally invested in anyone other than them....



As for the shattering canyon of Kyoko memories.....I think that Kuron has held this image of Kyoko as a seven year old in his mind and that part of the reason he wont pursue her is that he still remembers that little girl.



in summary i think this chapter was about fanservice and about both of them realizing that extent of the others emotional baggage

You talk about this picture






Pay attention to the 3 dots after the "be interested". But I guess she's only saying out lout "I can't possibly be interested." but the whold sentence (that she doesn't complete in her words but in her thoughts is: "I can't possibly be intereste in someone other than you."

And the other sentence is: Don't fall to the bottom with me.



Shortly:

Thinking: Don't fall to the bottom with me.

Talking: Please. I can't possibly be interested...

Thinking: in someone other than you.
 
  • #39
EfiChan said:
It's not true that she was totally cook when she entered the bath. She entered there panicking, being scared about what the hell happens to Ren (He took his time, and she was affraid he fell asleep). After that, she behaved in front normally though she felt like dying. Later she tried to convice herself she didn't and she's still pure. In the end, she decided regreting not seeing the whole so she will be able to make Ren's doll proparly. Totally not like her., but she's known for the fact she wants the dolls perfect (I remember it really good, cause I read millions times. There's nothing more fun that reading her Monologe out loud).



Sorry, I can't believe it will really work completely. Maybe for a little while, but if everthing is going to be solved just because of it... It's going to pathetic. All was needed is an act of stupid girl? come on, the writer has to put something more deep, otherwise it's meaning. And she still didn't really understood how Kuon's darkness started to rise, though she gives hints.



Sorry, I can't believe it will really work completely. Maybe for a little while, but if everthing is going to be solved just because of it... It's going to pathetic. All was needed is an act of stupid girl? come on, the writer has to put something more deep, otherwise it's meaning. And she still didn't really understood how Kuon's darkness started to rise, though she gives hints.

I was not referring to first time but second time. When director was there and she entered in the bath without any care in the world that even he was so shocked. As far as i remember she was not panicking neither there was any monologue.



About the darkness. I actually don't think about it too much. It just seems to me a forced sad past which is common in most shounen/shoujo stuff, unless author reveals what exactly happened and he does have a very good reason to think like that. Then i would say "yes, it need more than just a stupid act".. That past story in bits is not helping for me and i would rather want him to get over it as soon as possible.
 
  • #40
sanasonia said:
seems like ren is in heaven he even told her i m yours kyaaaaaaaa .....i m sure sure the next ren  dolls that kyouko is gonna make are going to be perfect since her data has increased ...XD  anyways it s like torture i wanna know what happens next right now ...... by the way why won t kyouko realize that she is in love with him? what a pain........



She just admitted that she can't be interested in anyone else except Ren.

KYAAAA!



That body of his is too much, my nose is bleeding!
 
  • #41
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                        gross incest lol. anyway nice to see them show feelings for each other. FINALLY!
 
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