Vampire Knight Chapter 63 Discussion

  • #26
JadedLover said:
What a revealing chapter this was!

So it appears this hooded vampire was the one who started the hunters. She pulled out her own heart to make the weapons. I wonder if this is why some of the Kurans can use anti-vampire weapons, since Kaname drank her blood, or if she is the one, who with Kaname, started the Kuran clan?

A lot of Zero in this chapter!! YAY!! He and Kaname both were looking hot as always!!!!XD I can't believe he arrested Aidou! I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry over that. Since he said he just wants information from Zero and had ways to get it, I hope he doesn't plan on trying to torture him someway to get it. I think I would find that rather funny if he did, but don't think Zero would do that anyway! Also the conversation he had with Aidou about Yuuki and Aidou basically telling him he should  try to get back the person he loves........hmmmm......since Zero won't admit he loves her anyway and has threatened to kill her......

Back to the hooded vampire.....I thought she might look like Yuuki more, but it looks like she's blond, and her personality is nothing like Yuuki's is.

Yuuki redeemed herself somewhat in my eyes this chapter when I saw her crying over Kaname's pain in his memories.

I felt really bad for Kaname. There is no way Yuuki will not love him because of his past. I think in her eyes he will be the same Kaname she has always known and loved and nothing will ever change that!

I guess I'm kinda rambling here, so will end with I thought the hooded vampire lady was kind of creepy. I haven't decided yet if she's good or bad. I'm soooo tired so I'm sure I'm not making any sense! lol



I totally agree with you on every thing ... except the Aidou and Zero part XD
 
  • #27
JadedLover said:

frozen_soul said:
JadedLover said:

frozen_soul said:
JadedLover said:
frozen_soul said:
well the hooded woman is so hot i like her way better than yuki ^^



well she was the ancestor of the hunters and the source of their power so i am not that surprised that she looks like zero



remember zero has the strongest hunter blood



I must have missed something....where does it say she was the ancestor of the hunters?!



She gave them her blood, and used her heart for the weapons, but as far as her being an ancestor to the hunters I missed that or had a different translation maybe?!



well i think a different translation because she was definitly refered as the ancestor of the vampire hunter race even if we have different translation the fact that she was the one that started the clan and her blood runs thru all the vampire hunters she is stilll technically considered as the ancestor of the clan and all of the hunters are mostly considerd as her offspring in a sense of ability








Your images didn't show up for me, but I did go back and re-read the chapter. I saw on page 27 and 28 where they refer to her as an ancestor, as in an original vampire,  in the same sense as Kaname is an ancestor. One of the original vampires, not as in an ancestor of the hunters. That's the way I read that to be.



i dont know why it didnt show up but yes at page 27&28 well if you read in to their talk some more it shows that the way zero thinks of her as the ancestor of the hunter clan



think it this way your ancestor was the root of your blood basically its their blood that runs in your veins

then see this the blood that runs thru all hunters is her blood because she sacrificed her blood so that human can become hunters basically the reason they are hunters is because they have her blood



so it means by blood she was the origin right? so it also means she was the ancestor of the hunters



I read it both in German and in English, and no where did I get the impression that Zero thought of her as an ancestor of his. Just as a vampire ancestor.



An ancestor is a parent or (recursively) the parent of an ancestor (i.e., a grandparent, great-grandparent, great-great-grandparent, and so forth).

Two individuals have a genetic relationship if one is the ancestor of the other, or if they share a common ancestor.



She is not related to Zero genetically which makes it impossible for her to be his ancestor. Following your line of logic though;  "basically the reason they are hunters is because they have her blood", that would make Yuuki Zero's ancestor (and an ancestor to his children) since he has consumed a great deal of her blood.  Eating and/or drinking something does not give genetic heritage. That's like saying because I had a bloody rare steak for dinner last night (and it was very good I might add), that cow will be an ancestor to my children and in turn their's.



"so it means by blood she was the origin right?" No. They got their power from her blood and that is it. They can trace their lines further back then that genetically. Like I said above, eating and/or drinking something does not give genetic heritage, and by definition of ancestor it is genetic.



She could, however, be an ancestor to Zero since all the vampire ancestors came from human parents it said. So for all we know, she might be a relative to him that way. That's as far as I'll concede her to be an ancestor to him if they were related that way.



I don't find it necessary to get into more of a debate then this in the middle of a forum, so this is my last post on the subject. You have your opinion and I have mine (and we are both entitled to those). Nothing you can say will sway me in mine however so....XD




i think so to this debate is just proof of our opinions so i wont add anymore since neither side would sway to the other nice talking with you thou
 
  • #28
That hooded lady looks like Yuuki to me...

Kaname's past is SO sad.  Yuuki please don't abandon him.
 
  • #30
Will just put my 2 cents in about the ancestor;  I think the real meaning was ancestors of the "bloodsuckers" in this case (Vampires). It mentions that and says they descended from the survivors who drank it.

Anyways awesome chapter, and easier to follow for me than past ones. Wondering what will happen with Aidou and how much more is left of Kaname's past.
 
  • #31
frozen_soul said:
JadedLover said:
frozen_soul said:
well the hooded woman is so hot i like her way better than yuki ^^



well she was the ancestor of the hunters and the source of their power so i am not that surprised that she looks like zero



remember zero has the strongest hunter blood



I must have missed something....where does it say she was the ancestor of the hunters?!



She gave them her blood, and used her heart for the weapons, but as far as her being an ancestor to the hunters I missed that or had a different translation maybe?!



well i think a different translation because she was definitly refered as the ancestor of the vampire hunter race even if we have different translation the fact that she was the one that started the clan and her blood runs thru all the vampire hunters she is stilll technically considered as the ancestor of the clan and all of the hunters are mostly considerd as her offspring in a sense of ability








Your images didn't show up for me, but I did go back and re-read the chapter. I saw on page 27 and 28 where they refer to her as an ancestor, as in an original vampire,  in the same sense as Kaname is an ancestor. One of the original vampires, not as in an ancestor of the hunters. That's the way I read that to be.
 
  • #32
JadedLover said:
frozen_soul said:
well the hooded woman is so hot i like her way better than yuki ^^



well she was the ancestor of the hunters and the source of their power so i am not that surprised that she looks like zero



remember zero has the strongest hunter blood



I must have missed something....where does it say she was the ancestor of the hunters?!



She gave them her blood, and used her heart for the weapons, but as far as her being an ancestor to the hunters I missed that or had a different translation maybe?!



well i think a different translation because she was definitly refered as the ancestor of the vampire hunter race even if we have different translation the fact that she was the one that started the clan and her blood runs thru all the vampire hunters she is stilll technically considered as the ancestor of the clan and all of the hunters are mostly considerd as her offspring in a sense of ability






 
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