Neon Genesis Evangelion Chapter 40 Discussion

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  • #10
BlueKite said:
BUT WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY



What happened in the anime was different....

Toji's death was harrowing, and at least the manga did some sort of justice by effectively killing him rather than leaving him in the cold. All in all I'm not the biggest fan of this volume, mainly because of how convenient all of the setup was. I'm interested to see how Shinji will react to this.
 
  • #11
Oh shiet, Touji dies in this version?! Man, totally unexpected, I even had to check what happened to him in anime, because after reading this volume I wasn't sure if I even remembered correctly, geez. Man, the frame with his corpse, where he still has opened eyes... Creepy.



Shinji is now in even more miserable position than he was in the original series. And that last page with cooking Hikari was so sad :(
 
  • #12
The fact that Shinji knew who the pilot was beforehand makes this even more impactful
 
  • #13
Damn.... poor Toji.



F*ck Gendo πŸ–•

 
  • #14
Phaetons_Folly said:
It’s a shame that Toji had to die, but there was really no other solution.

*Hint* Watch the anime.



Seriously thought, damn. Did not expect that. I figured he'd live....


...like in the anime

Showing his body and face like that.....disturbing. Can't believe they showed it. Well, now there is no way for Shinji and his dad to reconcile. I'm sure he'll just hate him from here on out. I hate Gendo with a passion. He's such an a**hole.
 
  • #15
I found that the manga dose this more shocking than what the anime did.
 
  • #16
Wow. I didn't honestly expect that to carry as much punch as it did this time around, having seen the anime first, I didn't anticipate reading Shinji's front row seat to horror to almost get me teary-eyed but yeah, it totally did. I'm not even talking about the the death, which was a big thud considering it didn't play out that way initially and I expected the same here but just the shot of Eva holding the plug with Shinji's scream, just brutal. The final pages with Toji pronounced dead followed by Hikari's fantasy, devastating.



I'm a bit conflicted over which version I prefer. As morbid as it sounds, I do prefer Toji dying. It felt it a bit cheap to have him live though I recall liking the brief scene we did get of him and Hikari. The more emotionally devastating version is better. That goes true for the anime on another account though, I spoil tag this just in case,
with Shinji not knowing it's Toji until the event is over. Having this awful reaction to just killing a human compares nothing to the shock of discovery that human was a close friend. I also like the idea that Shinji would so vehemently disagree with his father on concerns to just killing a human, that he doesn't need a connection with them in particular to hold his stance.
 
  • #17
Everyone's surprised that Toji died, but for all intents and purposes, he died in the anime version as well. There is a reason that he's never seen again after his "injury." That's because Anno intended to kill him off. It's just that he wasn't allowed to show a child dying on TV. But since Toji is never seen or mentioned again in the anime, yeah, Anno pretty much considered him dead at this point.
 
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