Monster Chapter 162 Discussion

  • #42
I dont know from where to start. This is going to be a long one xD. The begining of the manga was very good and promising, then maybe after chapter 25 or so it got unesesery complicated, dont get me wrong i like it to be conplicated, but not like that. It was souless. The peaste and the story got too stiff for a 1/4 of the manga. Afther that period it step on its feet again and continued very smouth. But at the last 10-15 chapters the whole thing got so blury and (hate to say it) boring that i feelt like Naoki Urusawa was in such a hurry to finish it and sayed to himself "fack it i cant keep that up, lets just put whatever ending to it". I left tha manga unsetiafaed and anoyed. Maybe becouse i had so much hopes for it to be something special till the very end. I realy wanted to give the manga 10 out of 10, but at the end is for maxsimys 8/10 in my eyes.
 
  • #43
This is me again, but becouse the discusion sistem was shut down for i while i was pre-write that shit up there xD

So here are my additional thouts after i watched the anime and an explanation video on YouTube, witch btw was pretty helpful to me https://youtu.be/dU2uy4oyq2w



I take my words for beeing boring and anoying, i just didnt understend it fully at that time.  I seen that everything had a reason and explanation. So my curent score is 9/10 .
 
  • #44
good stuff man, definitely an awesome read. it's too long though, sometimes it drags on and on somewhere nobody cares about, but overall a great start as one of the first manga i ever read.
 
  • #45
Despite its lulls and to me a fairly lackluster conclusion (not bad, just lackluster), this manga was one of the most wonderful series I've ever read. I loved the way all of these seemingly disjointed plot lines tied together, and managed to intertwine in an astounding way. It was a wonderful work and a testament of good plotting and careful planning. I also like how, despite the content and subject matter; the manga never wondered into edge territory. In the hands of a less capable mangaka, a character like Johan would've been a complete joke; ending up as a juvenile  attempt to deep. It managed to handle explicit topics with actual maturity, and didn't indulge in dialogue that sounded like an essay you'd read from a high school psychology class. The characters weren't walking edgelords going on about how sad they are and how shitty the world is. Over all I loved this manga. It combined some of the aspects of Master Keaton and managed to pull of tremendously wonderful read. Johan was a fantastic villain, and some of the plot twists in this manga were some of the insane I've come across. Sure the pacing wasn't the best and I could see how someone wouldn't like how Tenma stayed true to his morals and was more or less validated at the end. But in terms of sheer story telling, this work was top-notch.
 
  • #46
Ah, finally, the final. I actually think that the openness of the last chapter is a good thing for the story and for the readers. Monster was an amazing journey, I can't really add much to the comments there.



However, there's one thing in particular that I really, really admired, and that's Eva's development. I understand why so many people hate her, but I personally love flawed characters, and for me she was one of the most interesting ones in the show. There's an interesting detail about her - in the beginning, her facial structure just screams cynicism and mean nature - I'm mostly talking about Eva's lips here. They're sharp and almast always look upwards, taking a form of a tick. But in the later half of the series, and especially in this chapter, her lips are not like that anymore. They're soft, round and contribute to Eva's changed personality - she's now a kind woman who understands what's important in life - love and caring friends. Eva really did learn a lesson, and I can't help but admire her for that. As well as Urasawa for such a thrilling story with rich characters.
 
  • #47
One hell of a read. Great plot. Story was on point. Everything just about it makes you crave more and more. Open ending is not a big deal, in fact it leaves it however you want it to be. Phew, those characters were something else. Masterpiece no doubt anyone that says otherwise is a joke.
 
  • #48
It feels unreal but... I finally finished reading MONSTER!! And just in time before my final semester begins. Monster is my all time favorite anime or show in general and also the Darkest THING I've ever seen. I read the Manga anyway since i saw the anime a long time ago and because it's too complex to grasp everything in a single watch.



I thought it might have been a bad idea going through the EXACT same thing (which rarely happens during an adaptation) all over again, but now I believe it was a good thing afterall since everything is much clearer now. Still, I would prefer the anime since stuff like sound, music, animation, voice actors etc brings out a very different atmosphere imo. But the manga's still good too :3



My other complaint is that it felt like some parts were longer and that the ending end went by way too quickly in the manga, maybe it's just me idk.



Speaking of the last part, the Ruhenheim arc's probably my favorite arc in anything ever and damn was it epic!! I'm Still not sure about Tenma saving Johan again lol but I've come to terms with it now..I think...



In the end everything comes to a full circle, each character gets their resolution, and the way the plot gets clearer as it progresses and gets resolved is absolutely phenomenal!



Tho the 'actual ending' was very ambiguous hehe. It's an open ending, I believe Johan disappeared for good, never to be seen again. Not sure if the chat at the bed was real or not..



Overall 10/10, Monster's an absolute Masterpiece (both manga and anime). Great characters (all of them), one of the most complex plots ever, intriguing mystery and thrill, a great hero who stood by his morals and finally the Greatest villian of all time in anything ever, Johan Liebert!!! I think I'll read 20th century boys next...



Phew...if u read all of that then congratulations lol.
 
  • #49
That gave me a fright. Damn this manga. Beautiful. I wonder what their real name was. And that realization of Tenma,

the mother might have(because all of this was in our MC's mind) willingly gave Anna to Franz for the

experiment. Or did she really mistook her for Johan...





I wonder if Johan will kill his mother for that if it's true...
 
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