Monster Chapter 162 Discussion

Very interesting ending.

That was crazy when Johan sat up! I hope he isn't going to go on a rampage again. :/



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That's a possibility but I thought he just wanted Tenma's answer.

This manga was well worth every second of my time. Finally a protagonist that stays true to his ideals but remains human and faces reality as it is.



I think that Johans name was indeed Johan. After all Wolf said that as soon as he called him that something inside Johan awakened. But then again it's hard to know what truly was happening in his mind.



Also an excellent ending. It has somewhat a dark foreboding, yet somehow I wonder whether Johan has changed.



Also Nina was an excellent character. Actually the whole cast was excellent. This manga receives 10/10 from me.



I am truly impressed with this chapter.

Very overrated manga. i cant believe i wasted so much time reading this. the only reason i finished it was because everyone was saying it was great. but really, its just too darn long and it got boring and became a chore to read.



i do not understand why this is so highly rated.

4 things i couldn't quite figure out

1. After Nina ran back home from the red rose mansion she found johan

I figured from the reenactment that the mother abandoned them?

what for? so they would not be traced again, to avoid the profiling?



2.why nina had to shoot johan at the beginning? and why did johan kill their new

foster parents that night?

and why did he go on a killing rampage? just because he went crazy when he inherited nina's memories?



3. what was ranz bonapaparta trying to experiment by taking nina to red mansion that night?

     Did he try to free them from the captivity by killing everyone who knows of the 511 project?



4. in chapter 143,  or 40 pages into volume 17

that man johan killed, who is he?  is he even significant?

I had seen a little bit of this series before but that was a few years back. For about 2 years, I've been wanting to watch this series but I always seemed to get side-tracked by something.



Saturday night, well more like in the early hours of Sunday morning, I had a friend over and we were deciding on an anime to watch and I was pushing him to watch Monster and he gave in. He said only 1 episode and that he needed to go back to his flat because it was like 2am, however, he stayed and watched the first 3 episodes....he was persuaded by the brilliance of this series. However, he needed to go bed and so did I (an early night for me lol), so we stopped there. After some sleep, I just kept on watching with obvious breaks, lectures and the time used to sleep.....I finally finished this magnificent series just now.



I have many questions about the series, so many of them were left unanswered for the readers to decide on what they think will happen.



I believe Johan is alive still and has escaped the police hospital he was recovering at, as to where he went, I do not know but a working theory is that he went to see his mother in Souther France.



The part where he awakes from his slumber and tells Tenma about the choice his mother made in the last episode. I believe that is Tenma's imagination, a memory or an event only Tenma knows between Tenma and Johan, because the twin's mother told him and Tenma is thinking on what Johan must be thinking if he was to find out or remember the event.



The series is brilliant in having complex and layered characters as well as a brilliant and menacing OP to go with it.



The series or the events can be summed up in so many ways from one man's distorted love, a mother's revenge, a doctor's pursuit to right what he had done wrong, a woman who hates herself, a boy with a horrid past, a man seeking to gain his feelings and emotions that he had lost as a child. There are so many intertwining tales within this story.



It's a beautiful anime and manga, the anime adaptation is very faithful to the manga.



This is probably one of the animes where I am not really doing any "shipping", the many characters of this story seem to be more family than anything else, I don't see Nina and Tenma ever becoming a couple, Nina only sees Tenma as a precious individual and I don't think Tenma has the ability to get into a relationship anytime soon.



Naoki Urasawa, the mangaka of Monster, who has done a few of my favourites of all time like 20th Century Boys. I learned that he rebooted his "Master Keaton" series, it's apparently set 20 years after the end of the original manga series. I'm wondering if he will ever make another manga related to Monster detailing more of what happens to the lives of the many characters like Eva, Tenma, Johan, Nina, etc.



I think I maybe one of a few people who actually loved Eva's character, I never hated her at any point in the series, I know she did many questionable and incredibly hurtful things throughout the course of the series. I felt truly sorry for her when she lost Martin.



This series is magnificent and should be watched many people out there as possible, I will be trying my best to spread this around amongst my friends.



My score for this anime is a 10/10, it truly is a masterpiece.

A brilliant end to a brilliant series. Johan sitting up was a heart-stopper, and his disappearing from his hospital bed (again) was a good end. What will he do now? He might have been the "unwanted" twin. Will he go after his mother? Does he have a new purpose to be a psycho killer? Will he go after Nina/Anna?



Definitely a manga I'd recommend. I realized that it was a 10/10 by the end of the first volume, but, after reading the last chapter, I'm wishing that I'd saved it till now.

The pros:

- Practically everything

- Incredible plot

- Deep!!!!

- DAT PHILOSOPHY AND PSYCHOLOGY.

- DAT SUSPENSE

- The villians are actually hateable. For example, I hate Roberto with a burning passion. If I were Lunge, I'd kill him for sure.



The cons:

- Way too long

- Too many characters. Also have to comment on the art. Alot of the European guys look REALLY similar. I forgot a lot of the side character names

- I wanted a conclusion/epilogue on all the semi-main characters



Debating on either a 9 or 10 but leaning on the 10...



TOTALLY SHIPPING TENMA AND NINA BTW. LOL Even with their um 20 year age difference :P Also Martin and Eva. CUTE